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Hi Andreas,<br>
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To avoid confusion, we're talking about three tools here: libzeep,
mrc and mrs.<br>
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mrc is a simple resource compiler, is now compatible and bug free,
builds on all architectures and should be kept. I believe it is very
useful, using it I can create downloadable, portable applications
that need additional static data without the need for installer
scripts.<br>
<br>
libzeep version 5 is the latest incarnation of a library I've been
working on for 12 years now. It has evolved into a toolbox to build
web applications in C++ inspired by the popular Java Spring
framework and Thymeleaf template processor. It also contains a full
XML and a JSON library. Using this library I could e.g. convert a
pipeline to process genomics data into an interactive web
application, the python scripts took up to 4 hours for each run, now
you can do the same analysis in less than 5 seconds. I have a couple
of applications based on libzeep that I would like to add to Debian,
most of them tools used in crystallography and genomics research.
But also a content management system.<br>
<br>
And then we have MRS. This is a retrieval system, a web application
capable of indexing and then searching terabytes of text based
databanks on a single machine. Mostly used in the medical and
biological world. It is used e.g. on mini computers that are sent
into Africa where internet access is limited, that way large
databanks like EMBL are still available. But I stopped development
in 2012 when I switched jobs. I continued development of libzeep on
which MRS is based but someone else took over development of MRS. A
year ago I did a consultancy job fixing MRS which basically came
down to reverting most of the attempted 'improvements' after I left.<br>
<br>
Currently I'm working at the Netherlands Cancer Institute, here I
write both software used in crystallography as well as a genomics
analysis tool. Many of the crystallographic tools are moving into
open source right now. We would have liked to include those in the
CCP4 distribution, but unfortunately my code is way too new (C++17)
to work in that environment. Next to that we would like to include
our tools in Debian (DSSP already is, but that application needs an
update), but if that won't work, I will set up a private repository
to distribute our binaries.<br>
<br>
I know libzeep is not very popular, that's because I never bothered
much to find an audience. But I can't live without it myself, a lot
of my tools are based on it one way or another. Libzeep is also
quite mature and has been used in many tools in a production
environment for many years now.<br>
<br>
Sorry, long story. To make it short.<br>
- Keep mrc, no problem there<br>
- Upgrade libzeep to version 5<br>
- Kick out mrs until it is upgraded to use libzeep 5<br>
<br>
regards, -maarten<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 09-11-2020 om 20:49 schreef Andreas
Tille:<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Hi Maarten,
On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 07:22:30PM +0100, Maarten L. Hekkelman wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I'm sorry, but mrs as it is currently in Debian is not compatible with
libzeep version 5. It needs a major rewrite. Libzeep is a spin off project
of mrs and has evolved a lot since then.
So either libzeep should be kept at version 3 or mrs should be removed. If
mrs and libzeep are kept, I will not be able to release my other tools based
on libzeep in Debian.
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You are the Uploader and the only competent person to decide. If I
understood the issue correctly it came up right after mrc was added to
the Build-Depends. Wouldn't it be an option to just de-couple both
again.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Upgrading mrs is of course the best option, but I won't have time to do that
soon.
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So please draw a sensible decision. Libzeep was according to popcon[1]
never installed by more than 10 users - currently the vote (active users)
is at zero. Feel free to decided what *you* personally love to see in
Debian (but decreasing a version number is usually not nice).
Kind regards
Andreas.
[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=libzeep">https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=libzeep</a>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">regards, -maarten
Op 09-11-2020 om 16:19 schreef Niko Tyni:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 09:17:25AM +0200, Juhani Numminen wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Source: mrs
Version: 6.0.5+dfsg-8
Severity: serious
Tags: ftbfs sid
Justification: fails to build from source (but built successfully in the past)
| Checking for libzeep...libzeep is not installed, either install the package libzeep-dev
| or download libzeep from <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="ftp://ftp.cmbi.ru.nl/pub/software/libzeep">ftp://ftp.cmbi.ru.nl/pub/software/libzeep</a>
| and run configure again.
| make[1]: *** [debian/rules:15: override_dh_auto_configure] Error 2
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Looks to me like libzeep-dev is broken because the build
doesn't pass --enable-shared to ./configure.
Probably the override_dh_auto_configure-arch and
override_dh_auto_configure-indep targets in src:libzeep debian/rules
are not effective because of the earlier override_dh_auto_configure
target. But I didn't actually test any of this.
Hope this helps,
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Maarten L. Hekkelman
Cataloniëstraat 3
6663NJ Lent
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