<div dir="auto">Thank you all for the constructive discussion, hope to refresh the web site soon.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Jim</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 04:34 dinow via Nut-upsdev <<a href="mailto:nut-upsdev@alioth-lists.debian.net">nut-upsdev@alioth-lists.debian.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"></font> </p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">Good Day Ted & Jim</font></p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"></font> </p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"></font> </p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">AA. Yes</font></p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"></font> </p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">==> Thanks your corrections and we
hope nut to <strong>keep</strong> the old documents </font></p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"></font><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"></font> </p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">==> Is it okay to change the
representation as below <strong>Powercom</strong> list from <a href="https://networkupstools.org/ups-protocols.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><font face="?啁敦??">https://networkupstools.org/ups-protocols.html</font></a></font></p>
<ul>
<li><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">USB information for
<strong>old</strong> BNT series</font></li>
<li><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">USB information
for <strong>old</strong> IMPERIAL series</font></li>
<li><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">USB information
for <strong>old</strong> SKP series</font></li>
<li><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">USB information
for <strong>old</strong> WOW series</font></li>
<li><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">USB information for All Powercom UPS
series (<a href="https://www.upspowercom.com/ftp/PCM-USB-Protocol.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.upspowercom.com/ftp/PCM-USB-Protocol.pdf</a>)</font></li></ul>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"></font> </p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">BB. <strong>Big thanks</strong> for all
your professional corrections and assistance</font></p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"></font> </p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"></font> </p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">If you have any questions, please don't
hesitate to inform us</font></p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">Sincerely yours truly, Oct.
21th</font></p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">Dinow Hsieh</font><br><br></p></div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:9pt;FONT-VARIANT:normal;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;FONT-STYLE:normal;LINE-HEIGHT:normal"><b>From:
</b><a href="mailto:nut-upsdev@alioth-lists.debian.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><a href="mailto:nut-upsdev@alioth-lists.debian.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">nut-upsdev </a></a></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:9pt;FONT-VARIANT:normal;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;FONT-STYLE:normal;LINE-HEIGHT:normal"><b>To:
</b><a href="mailto:tedm@mittelstaedt.us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><a href="mailto:tedm@mittelstaedt.us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Ted Mittelstaedt </a></a></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:9pt;FONT-VARIANT:normal;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;FONT-STYLE:normal;LINE-HEIGHT:normal"><b>Date:
</b>2021/10/21 (週四)</div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:9pt;FONT-VARIANT:normal;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;FONT-STYLE:normal;LINE-HEIGHT:normal"><b>Subject:
</b>Re: [Nut-upsdev] [HCL]<u></u>Powercom<u></u>all
ups<u></u>usbhid-ups</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>Thanks Ted,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div> that echoes my thoughts: any HW supported by NUT at some point and
with a population of units physically alive, whether marketed or supported by
original vendors or not, should better be documented.
<div><br></div>
<div> So if the old docs are in some way better than new one, even if
explaining quirks not relevant and not documented for same-named models or
firmware sold today, I believe such docs should remain available (maybe marked
as old stuff, but ready for revision). After all, currently shipped drivers
probably correspond to that spec?..</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>@Dinow: how strict is the business/etc. requirement to make that older
info truly unavailable? Can we keep it visible but maybe marked
deprecated? </div>
<div><br></div>Jim<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 12:05 Ted Mittelstaedt via
Nut-upsdev <<a href="mailto:nut-upsdev@alioth-lists.debian.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">nut-upsdev@alioth-lists.debian.net</a>>
wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT:1ex;BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">
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<p><br></p>
<p>Thanks, Dinow,</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>I'm not a NUT admin but you posted this to a public mailing list so I'm
going to just send a response to that list since it's a public posting.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>The current documentation you sent is much sparser than the older
docs. So I think the older docs are going to still be valuable for
just that reason alone, as an addition to the newer current
documentation. I do not know what the admins are going to do but I
would hope they merely mark the old documents as "Old" and add this to
them.<br></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Unlike commercial software, open source software projects usually do not
have the luxury of removing support for older hardware that is no longer in
production from the manufacturer.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>As a NUT user I cannot thank you enough for supporting open source
software projects like NUT.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Ted<br></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><br></p>
<div>On 10/19/2021 7:28 PM, dinow via Nut-upsdev wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div> </div>
<div>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">Good Day NUT administrators
</font></p>
<p> </p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">AA. My name is Dinow and the
engineer of <strong>Powercom</strong> corporation</font></p>
<p> </p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">BB. Could you help us to
:</font></p>
<p> </p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"> B1.
<strong>Remove</strong> the current list from Powercom >> <a href="https://networkupstools.org/ups-protocols.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><font face="新細明體">https://networkupstools.org/ups-protocols.html</font></a>:</font></p>
<ul>
<li><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">USB information for BNT
series</font>
<li><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">USB information for IMPERIAL
series</font>
<li><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">USB information for SKP
series</font>
<li><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">USB information for WOW
series</font> </li></li></li></li></ul>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman"> B2.
<strong>Add</strong> a item and its document</font></p>
<ul>
<li><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">USB information for
<strong>all</strong> Powercom's UPS</font>
<li><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">Add attached
<strong>PDF</strong> as its document</font> </li></li></ul>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">CC. Big Thanks for your
help</font></p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">If you have any questions, please
don't hesitate to inform us</font></p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">Sincerely yours truly, Oct.
20th</font></p>
<p><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">Dinow
Hsieh</font></p><br><br></div><br><br><br>
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