<div dir="ltr"><div>I think yes, seems like a valid bug.</div><div><br></div><div>Also as you mention `upsdrvctl`, systemd and NUT v2.8.x together, take a look at <a href="https://github.com/networkupstools/nut/wiki/nut%E2%80%90driver%E2%80%90enumerator-(NDE)">https://github.com/networkupstools/nut/wiki/nut%E2%80%90driver%E2%80%90enumerator-(NDE)</a> - it may be more applicable to use `upsdrvsvcctl` instead nowadays.</div><div><br></div><div>Jim</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 12:35 AM Vyasa <<a href="mailto:info@dalpha.com">info@dalpha.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<p>Hi Jim,</p>
<p>Thanks for the prompt response.</p>
<p>The restart I refer to was exactly as you say. Where I restarted
the service using: systemctl restart nut-server. This was
separate to where I mention the reboot of server machine, which
resolves the issue.<br>
</p>
<p>The driver used was:<br>
Network UPS Tools - UPS driver controller 2.8.0<br>
Network UPS Tools - BCMXCP UPS driver 0.32 (2.8.0)</p>
<p>I simulated the fault again, by putting the UPS in bypass and
disconnecting the battery. This caused the RB alert again. With
this I then reconnected battery, restored UPS to normal operating
condition. Then used upsdrvctl to STOP and START the driver.</p>
Generating alert condition for simulating RB:<br>
Alert type: REPLBATT<br>
.....................<br>
ups.status: ALARM OL BYPASS RB<br>
ups.test.result: Done and error<br>
<br>
Alert cleared on UPS, and alert condition with RB persisting on
NUT-SERVER:<br>
Alert type: ONLINE<br>
.................<br>
ups.status: OL RB<br>
<p>ups.test.result: Done and passed</p>
Restarting using upsdrvctl start/stop command clears RB:<br>
Alert type: COMMOK<br>
..................<br>
ups.status: OL<br>
ups.test.result: Done and passed<br>
<p>So it seems that your and my suspicions have been verified.
Where bcmxcp seems to "latch" the alarm until driver restart or
server reboot.</p>
<p>I think you are correct, in that this can cause issues in other
subsets of real-life cases. Thinking here of automating and
scripting and so forth.</p>
<p>What would you suggest at this point? Can this be submitted as a
bug?</p>
<p>Vyasa<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div>On 6/30/25 14:18, Jim Klimov wrote:<br>
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<div>Hello,</div>
<div><br>
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<div> You mention that you've tried restarting the "nut-server"
- I suppose you mean literally, the service unit by such name
- of the NUT data server. Did you try restarting the unit for
the NUT driver (e.g. `systemctl restart nut-drvier@upsname`
with NUT v2.8.x and newer)?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> You did not mention the driver used, but I wonder if that
driver program "latches" the RB value when it goes bad and
never updates it?.. This could make sense when UPS battery
replacement means server downtime, but that is just a subset
of real-life cases - so generally can be just an oversight.
For example, `bcmxcp` code seems to only set
`bcmxcp_status.alarm_replace_battery=1` (oddly neither the
field nor struct is ever initialized to 0, so might be garbage
on some systems/compilers that do not zero-out aggregate types
by default).</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Jim</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at
7:53 PM Vyasa via Nut-upsuser <<a href="mailto:nut-upsuser@alioth-lists.debian.net" target="_blank">nut-upsuser@alioth-lists.debian.net</a>>
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<p>Hello,</p>
<p>CONFIGURATION:<br>
</p>
<p>I am using a Powerware PW9120 3000i, on a network
configuration with a server and a couple of slaves. <br>
</p>
<p>The nut-server OS is <i>Debian 12 (6.1.0-37-amd64)</i>.
Nut was installed from the Debian repo with version <i>2.8.0-7
amd64</i>, and client has the same version.</p>
<p>UPS is connected with a standard RS232 serial connection,
and works with all standard commands and functionality.</p>
<p>Command "<i>upscmd -l upsname</i>" provides the
following, where I have successfully used <i>test.battery.start</i>
and <i>test.system.start</i>:</p>
<p>beeper.disable - Disable the UPS beeper<br>
beeper.enable - Enable the UPS beeper<br>
beeper.mute - Temporarily mute the UPS beeper<br>
load.on - Turn on the load immediately<br>
outlet.1.load.off - Turn off the load on outlet 1
immediately<br>
outlet.1.load.on - Turn on the load on outlet 1
immediately<br>
outlet.1.shutdown.return - Turn off the outlet 1 and
return when power is back<br>
outlet.2.load.off - Turn off the load on outlet 2
immediately<br>
outlet.2.load.on - Turn on the load on outlet 2
immediately<br>
outlet.2.shutdown.return - Turn off the outlet 2 and
return when power is back<br>
shutdown.return - Turn off the load and return when power
is back<br>
shutdown.stayoff - Turn off the load and remain off<br>
test.battery.start - Start a battery test<br>
test.system.start - Start a system test<br>
</p>
<p>ISSUE:</p>
<p>Every couple of years when I have to replace batteries in
the UPS, I get an issue with not being able to clear the
REPLBATT alert. That is not until I reboot the server
running NUT-SERVER. This might seem as not a big deal,
but becomes a hassle when batteries haven't quite failed
yet and are still good after a ups battery test.</p>
<p>The UPS itself reports OK after battery replacement or
battery test, and clears alarm on its LCD. But when I
poll the UPS data using "upsc upsname" I still see the RB
or REPLBATT and this will not clear until I reboot the
server. So without reboot the alert will then be
generated based on RBWARNTIME in upsmon.conf, which is as
per nut design.<br>
</p>
<p>So without reboot I always get the RB flag with status:</p>
<i>Alert type: REPLBATT</i><br>
<i>............</i><br>
<i>ups.status: OL RB</i><br>
<i>ups.test.result: Done and passed</i><br>
<p>After reboot of server the alert is cleared:</p>
<i>Alert type: COMMOK<br>
............<br>
ups.status: OL<br>
ups.test.result: Done and passed</i><br>
<p>So my question becomes, why is this reboot required and
it doesn't seem to make any sense? I can't understand why
the polled data from a UPS would change after a reboot,
while on the UPS LCD its reporting all OK? I tried
restarting NUT-SERVER to see if it would make any
difference. Also, the command test.battery.start will
clear the alarm on the UPS if battery test good.</p>
<p>The only explanation that I have come up with is that the
persistent RB/REPLBATT is latched to this condition and is
an artifact of UPS to NUT handshaking.<br>
</p>
<p>Any feedback would be kindly appreciated, as I have
searched and searched.</p>
<p>Thank you!<br>
</p>
Vyasa<br>
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