[Pkg-javascript-devel] New JS team mailing list?

[Nilesh Patra]

On 3/25/22 9:09 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> I actively want us to change. As the signal to noise ratio is lowered
>> due to tons of processing emails (and it is not only -my- opinion)
> 
> I guess that by "processing emails" you mean those emails sent from
> Debian infrastructure to the Maintainer email address.

yes, things like "Processing of xxx_sourceonly.changes"
Or bug processing mails from BTS (like processing tags)

> Do you mean that you want an _additional_ mailinglist which is
> _separate_ from the address used in package Maintainer field?
> > E.g. a -discuss list?

Yes, as an example we have "debian-med-packaging at alioth-lists.debian.net" as
maintainer address,
and "debian-med at lists.debian.org" for discussions.

Several teams have similar schemes.
Those without a alioth list use tracker+<teamname>@debian.org as maint address
so as to reduce noise. Hope that helps clarify what I meant to say.
  
>> Also, alioth lists (like the current one) break DKIM signatures and is
>> a sort of a bummer since I see valid mails get to my spam folder
>> sometimes.
> 
> I was unaware that the Alioth list was broken.
> 
> I recommend that you report that issue to the mailinglist admins: The
> footer of https://alioth-lists.debian.net/ lists
> https://salsa.debian.org/alioth-lists-team/support as their preferred
> place to report issues.

I think it is already known for quite sometime. IIRC bugs.d.o and alioth lists use similar mechanisms for mails.
bugs.d.o breaking DKIM is well known.
Don't exactly remember where alioth lists thingy was, but a quick search led me to these[1,2]
Do consider taking a look.

[1]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2022/03/msg00057.html
[2]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=830865#40

>> But please note that there is already a bug for lists.d.o for a JS
>> team mailing list here[1] it has been a long time since, though.
> 
> Ah, right.  I vaguely rmember us discussing mailinglist structure in the
> past, but I do not remember what was the conclusion of that discussion,
> and it is not clear to me from that bugreport either.

Thread starts from here[3]
Conclusion was to start with it if no-one objected; and IIRC, no-one raised any objections.

[3]: https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/pkg-javascript-devel/2019-December/037619.html

>> Since you moderate this list, it would make a lot of sense if you
>> could follow up there and do the needful with respect to the
>> procedure.
>>
>> [1]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=946979
> 
> Sorry, I fail to see how my role as moderator for the current Alioth
> list makes me any special regarding setup of additional lists - at
> alioth-lists.d.n or at lists.d.o.

Since you moderate this list, I thought it would be nice if you would
be nice if you could also moderate lists.d.o, as current maintainer it would
be easier to collaborate with list admins (just a thought, not a strong opinion)
  
> I am open to changes to mailinglists, for the record.

- Thumbs up -

Regards,
Nilesh

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