Fixing SC in testing

[Felipe Sateler]

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Reinhard Tartler <siretart at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Dan S <danstowell+debmm at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 2012/8/5 Felipe Sateler <fsateler at debian.org>:
> >> We currently have a broken supercollider in testing, and the freeze
> >> means 3.5.3 will not migrate automatically.
> >>
> >> Dan, since you are the most knowledgeable on SC matters, could you
> >> prepare a message on why do we prefer 3.5.x instead of 3.4.x for
> >> wheezy? I can think of:
> >>
> >> 1. Widgets (are the new qt-widgets source-compatible with the older
> >> java-based ones?)
> >> 2. No more scons.
> >>
> >> Any other important stuff?
> >
> > Important issues with SuperCollider 3.4.x in debian wheezy, that
> > motivate transitioning directly to 3.5.x:
> >
> > * SC 3.4.x relied optionally on a third-party java-based kit
> > ("SwingOSC") to provide for building user interface widgets. (This
> > provides standard server- and addon-management interfaces as well as
> > user-made GUIs. It's not compulsory to have GUIs but it's typically
> > assumed in tutorials and the official book.) This was never packaged
> > for debian, so the provision is kinda incomplete. SC 3.5 includes a
> > QT-based widget system which provides all of this functionality and
> > with the same programming interface. It's very nice.
> >
> > * The GEdit plugin "sced" has been updated to support GEdit version 3,
> > which is what is in wheezy. (We previously just deactivated the gedit
> > plugin in wheezy which is a shame as it's a recommended editor for
> > beginners.)
> >
> > * The old and overgrown SCons build system has been removed in favour
> > of Cmake. Requires much less downstream packaging effort.
> >
> > * User config files are moved to a much more XDG-friendly location:
> > instead of ~/share/supercollider   it's now
> > ~/.local/share/SuperCollider and ~/.config/SuperCollider.   (Old
> > config is detected and migration info is output.)
> >
> > There are many other changes - it's a major release of SC - news for
> > 3.5 is at http://doc.sccode.org/Guides/News-3_5.html
> >
> > This OK?
>
> TBH, this summary sounds like a good reason for me to request SC to be
> removed from testing and consider 3.5 as a good target for
> wheezy-backports.

Yes, but 3.5 was uploaded before the freeze. Build failures prevented
it from migrating to testing, though, which is why I intend to ask the
rt if it is OK for the current version to migrate.

I'm not quite sure if it is better to leave wheezy without sc by
default instead of an older version.

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Saludos,
Felipe Sateler