<div dir="ltr">Thanks, Lance!<div><br></div><div>As he laid out, this packaged shipped as-is is a pretty serious violation of our trademarks, and we'd like to see it addressed as soon as humanly possible. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 2:40 PM Lance Albertson <<a href="mailto:lance@osuosl.org">lance@osuosl.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">All,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I'm a member of the Cinc Project [1] which rebuilds and rebrands various Chef projects to comply with Chef Trademark Policy [2]. We have worked closely with Chef to ensure Cinc Client complies with this policy.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">A member of our community notified us today that it appears that Ubuntu [3] and Debian [4] are both including a package called "chef" which seems to pull in the Cinc source code but doesn't fully comply with the Chef Trademark Policy. We are concerned that this use of the Cinc Client in the manner it's currently presented will create an issue for us and you in the future unless this gets resolved quickly.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Specifically, we are concerned with the following:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">1. The package name should be cinc and not chef as Chef is trademarked and also causes users to think they are installing Chef when they are installing Cinc</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">2. The package should have proper attributions to include the Cinc Project including pointing any issues related to the package to our issue page, and not Chef</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">2. Running "chef-client" (or other similar commands) does not tell the user that it's actually using Cinc Client as our package does properly</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">3. All of the trademark renaming we did in our Cinc Client distribution seems to have been removed and retains all of the Chef related paths (i.e. /etc/chef when it should be /etc/cinc). This will cause confusion for users who are expecting Cinc.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">We would like to work with the Debian/Ubuntu maintainers to ensure you're following compliance and also ensuring our distribution works well on Debian/Ubuntu. However we also want to ensure you don't get into any legal trouble with Chef. I am sure most of these changes weren't done intentionally and was a mistake.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Feel free to reach out to us via the #community-distros channel on the Chef Community Slack, or you can reach me directly via IRC on Freenode as "Ramereth".  I've also cc'd Benny Vasquez who is a community manager at Chef who can answer any questions relating to this and provide any additional feedback.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Thanks!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">[1] <a href="https://cinc.sh/" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" target="_blank">https://cinc.sh/</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">[2] <a href="https://www.chef.io/trademark-policy/" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" target="_blank">https://www.chef.io/trademark-policy/</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">[3] <a href="https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/chef" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" target="_blank">https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/chef</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">[4] <a href="https://packages.debian.org/sid/chef" target="_blank">https://packages.debian.org/sid/chef</a></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Lance Albertson</font><div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Director</font></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Oregon State University | </span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Open Source Lab </span></div></div></div></div></div>
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