<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 22:30:41 +0100 Luca Boccassi <<a href="mailto:bluca@debian.org">bluca@debian.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div><br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> Finally, and I understand you can't possibly care, but the only things<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> I am getting out of working on this are burnout and grief, a constant<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> barrage. Getting hate from random anonymous trolls is one thing and<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> pretty much comes with the job description of systemd maintainer, but<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> for some reason pile-ons from fellow project members just hit<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> differently. My problem, of course.<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> <br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> Besides, the generic feedback from random Debian users seems to be<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> largely positive, joyous even:<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> <br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@daltux@snac.daltux.net/114241049303960781">https://fosstodon.org/@daltux@snac.daltux.net/114241049303960781</a><br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@dwardoric@chaos.social/114241412595005926">https://fosstodon.org/@dwardoric@chaos.social/114241412595005926</a><br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@eugenio@snac.eutampieri.eu/114241396099978535">https://fosstodon.org/@eugenio@snac.eutampieri.eu/114241396099978535</a><br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@nafmo@vivaldi.net/114242626006732520">https://fosstodon.org/@nafmo@vivaldi.net/114242626006732520</a><br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@asl@mastodon.launay.org/114245405068810570">https://fosstodon.org/@asl@mastodon.launay.org/114245405068810570</a><br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@TheGingerDog/114245701525734541">https://fosstodon.org/@TheGingerDog/114245701525734541</a><br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@ttyS1@bsd.network/114242208525201480">https://fosstodon.org/@ttyS1@bsd.network/114242208525201480</a><br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org/114242559527495102">https://fosstodon.org/@ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org/114242559527495102</a><br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> <br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> So, just one simple question: why the **** should I even bother<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>> anymore?<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div><br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>I'm sorry you have to deal with that kind of negativity from people who<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>are likely not even Debian users. Unfortunately Mastodon is not free of<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>social media toxicity - it just has a different flavour.<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div><br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>However every Debian admin I know sincerely appreciates your sustained efforts<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>on systemd in Debian, as I posted when I saw this news:<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div><br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@smlx/114240374851185610">https://fosstodon.org/@smlx/114240374851185610</a><br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div><br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>Leaving the cloud images aside for a moment, even on the desktop</div><div>systemd-resolved has been the _only_ DNS tool that actually works<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>reliably for complex DNS setups.<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div><br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>There's a blog post from Tailscale way back in 2021, explaining the<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>shortcomings of every other DNS solution, and why only systemd-resolved<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>actually handles complex requirements the right way:<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div><br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div><a href="https://tailscale.com/blog/sisyphean-dns-client-linux">https://tailscale.com/blog/sisyphean-dns-client-linux</a><br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div><br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>If Trixie really ships without systemd-resolved it will be almost<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>unusable for Tailscale (and similar VPNs), DNS over TLS/HTTPS, and other<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div><div>modern DNS configuration combinations common in 2025.<br style="max-width:100%;height:auto;"></div></body></html>