[Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#919619: Bug#919619: NM 1.24.0 now has basic support for hidden networks with iwd backend

Jonas Smedegaard dr at jones.dk
Sun Jul 12 16:39:19 BST 2020


Quoting Michael Biebl (2020-07-04 00:42:57)
> Am 04.07.20 um 00:16 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard:
> > Then how about _not_ recommend iwd but just lower from depending on 
> > wpasupplicant to only recommending it.  Because that's what it is: 
> > Recommended for all except special situations.  For now...  Right?
> 
> Hm, no. That's exactly the situation I want to avoid. The user
> installing iwd, removing wpasupplicant in the process, network not
> working anymore. A Recommends makes that even worse. Either iwd works as
> a drop-in replacement (without requiring explicit configuration) or not.
> That's basically my question.
> If it does, I'm happy to add an alternative Depends assuming Andreas is
> fine with that.

I understand that neither you nor Andreas consider current release of 
IWD a _recommended_ alternative for wpa-supplicant.  That is a good 
reason to not depend on or recommend iwd.

I do not understand, however, why you will not relax relationship on 
wpa-supplicant to recommend it instead of depending on it.

There are use-cases of network-manager without wpa-supplicant, when 
either wifi is not used, or when IWD is used instead.

Again, I do understand that such use-cases are not _recommended_ but 
they are still _possible_ and _wanted_ for some unusual situations.  
Debian Policy says to use Recommends: not Depends: for such relations.


 - Jonas

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