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    <p>Hi,</p>
    <p>why you start with version 1.2.1 instead 1.2.0 ?</p>
    <p>-Ulf<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 08.02.23 um 02:43 schrieb m. allan
      noah:<br>
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        <div>Sounds reasonable, though at the moment I am pretty
          frustrated with how this backends release went. I know folks
          worked pretty hard on what we have now (particularly Olaf),
          but I think I am going to make an executive decision, and rip
          some of this out. Once I have done this (and cleaned up the
          snapshot build process), I'd like to quickly release 1.2.2.
          Hopefully, we can end up with a release that actually builds
          with a proper version number, and without autotools being
          required.</div>
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        <div>allan<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 8:18 PM
          Ralph Little <<a href="mailto:skelband@gmail.com"
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          wrote:<br>
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          <div> Hi,<br>
            On a slightly different note, perhaps we should consider
            doing a frontends release soon.<br>
            Thierry has been working on a GTK3 port of the GUI apps in
            there which is going to become an issue shortly as some
            distros drop GTK2.<br>
            <br>
            Cheers,<br>
            Ralph<br>
            <br>
            <div>On 2023-02-07 04:48, m. allan noah wrote:<br>
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                <div>This entire thing is a little crazy, because I
                  spent more time fighting with the automation than I
                  would have spent doing an old manual release. One of
                  the steps there was simply to edit <a
                    href="http://configure.ac" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">configure.ac</a> and change
                  the version number a couple of times. Seems easy
                  enough to 'echo $new_version > .version' or
                  something like that in this new scheme. I'll do some
                  more research into how other projects handle this.</div>
                <div><br>
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                <div>And, I noticed the extra comments at the top of the
                  NEWS file were being displayed in the release notes
                  and manually removed that in the gitlab UI.</div>
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                <div>allan<br>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at
                  12:32 AM Ralph Little <<a
                    href="mailto:skelband@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">skelband@gmail.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
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                  <div> Hi,<br>
                    <br>
                    <div>On 2023-02-06 20:04, m. allan noah wrote:<br>
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                        <div>Hmm, looks like AC_INIT calls
                          `./tools/git-version-gen --prefix ''
                          .tarball-version`, which returns UNKNOWN.
                          Seems like our release process might be
                          leaving out some steps. I guess I'll dig more
                          tomorrow.</div>
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                    <br>
                    IIRC, this has been a long-standing issue with the
                    tar file included in the GitLab release artifacts,
                    in that they don't build. You have to instead get
                    the snapshot file.<br>
                    I don't know how long it has been like that but we
                    do get a complaint every now again. I keep trying to
                    remember to figure out what is going on to do
                    something about it.<br>
                    <br>
                    If it is the thing that I am thinking about, it
                    might also be the thing that always stuffs me up in
                    the release PPA because the orig tar file requires
                    an extra .gitversion file with the release version
                    in it, otherwise it won't build when it is uploaded.<br>
                    <br>
                    We really need to get our collective heads together
                    and fix it. I don't pretend to really understand
                    what the issue is though. Build systems aren't
                    really my thing.<br>
                    <br>
                    ----<br>
                    As an aside, the release page seems to have some
                    weird guff from the top of the NEWS file in there.
                    Not really sure what caused that. It is some of the
                    comment material. :`(<br>
                    <br>
                    Cheers,<br>
                    Ralph<br>
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                        <div>allan<br>
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 6,
                          2023 at 10:44 PM m. allan noah <<a
                            href="mailto:kitno455@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">kitno455@gmail.com</a>>
                          wrote:<br>
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                            <div>So, I was able to do the release on
                              time (after filling in a few blanks in our
                              documentation). But I only did the website
                              updates tonight. I seem to have run into a
                              small problem there- when I download the
                              release tarball, and run ./autogen.sh, i
                              get a ./configure file which has 'UNKNOWN'
                              as the package version number. This also
                              happens with 1.1.1 as well. Is this
                              happening for anyone else?</div>
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                            <div>allan<br>
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                            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat,
                              Feb 4, 2023 at 10:05 PM Ralph Little <<a
                                href="mailto:skelband@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">skelband@gmail.com</a>>
                              wrote:<br>
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                              <div> Hi,<br>
                                OK, I think I have done that.<br>
                                <br>
                                Because we are short on time I cut and
                                pasted the release note fragments from
                                my spreadsheet into the NEWS file with
                                Apostrophe MD file editor and whipped
                                them into shape manually.<br>
                                First time using it and it is pretty
                                good. Obviously, this was a manual
                                process, but it wasn't too onerous.<br>
                                <br>
                                I couldn't get the towncrier thingy to
                                work anyway. I don't really have much
                                experience with python and pip. Python
                                seems an awful lot more complicated
                                since the last time I used it :(<br>
                                <br>
                                I have pushed the release notes in NEWS
                                to your branch.<br>
                                <br>
                                Cheers,<br>
                                Ralph<br>
                                <br>
                                <div>On 2023-02-04 18:18, m. allan noah
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                    <div>Awesome, thanks! I'm working on
                                      updating doc/releases.md, which I
                                      find to be hard to use. Maybe if
                                      you keep some notes on what you
                                      did, I can incorporate your method
                                      instead of towncrier.</div>
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                                    <div>allan<br>
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                                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                      Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 9:12 PM Ralph
                                      Little <<a
                                        href="mailto:skelband@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">skelband@gmail.com</a>>
                                      wrote:<br>
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                                      <div> Hi,<br>
                                        In this case I didn't generate
                                        the towncrier files. It's a lot
                                        of faff if you don't do it as
                                        you go along.<br>
                                        I just put them into a
                                        spreadsheet.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        I will try to generate the
                                        release notes from that.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Cheers,<br>
                                        Ralph<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <div>On 2023-02-04 17:57, m.
                                          allan noah wrote:<br>
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                                            <div>I have pushed a branch
                                              called 'release-1.2.x'. I
                                              don't have this
                                              'towncrier' thing, so
                                              maybe you can run that and
                                              merge the release notes?</div>
                                            <div><br>
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                                            <div>allan<br>
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                                              class="gmail_attr">On Wed,
                                              Feb 1, 2023 at 11:39 AM m.
                                              allan noah <<a
                                                href="mailto:kitno455@gmail.com"
                                                target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">kitno455@gmail.com</a>>
                                              wrote:<br>
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                                                <div>Awesome, thanks!
                                                  I'll probably take a
                                                  first stab at it on
                                                  the 4th, and see if I
                                                  can follow our current
                                                  instructions.</div>
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                                                <div>allan<br>
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                                                  class="gmail_attr">On
                                                  Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at
                                                  8:43 PM Ralph Little
                                                  <<a
                                                    href="mailto:skelband@gmail.com"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">skelband@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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                                                  <div> Hi,<br>
                                                    I have prepared the
                                                    release notes
                                                    whenever you are
                                                    ready!<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Cheers,<br>
                                                    Ralph<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <div>On 2023-01-24
                                                      08:33, m. allan
                                                      noah wrote:<br>
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                                                      <div dir="auto">Sounds
                                                        good to me,
                                                        thanks for your
                                                        help. I'm
                                                        traveling this
                                                        week, and won't
                                                        be able to work
                                                        on this until
                                                        the weekend.</div>
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                                                          class="gmail_attr">On
                                                          Tue, Jan 24,
                                                          2023, 10:47 AM
                                                          Ralph Little
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:skelband@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">skelband@gmail.com</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          On 2023-01-01
                                                          15:54, m.
                                                          allan noah
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          > It has
                                                          been nearly a
                                                          year since our
                                                          last release,
                                                          and there have
                                                          been <br>
                                                          > many
                                                          changes and
                                                          bug fixes. I'd
                                                          like to get
                                                          1.2.1 released
                                                          in early <br>
                                                          > February.
                                                          I've not done
                                                          it in a few
                                                          years, but I
                                                          am certainly
                                                          willing <br>
                                                          > to make
                                                          the release
                                                          package.<br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          > Any
                                                          objections to
                                                          a code freeze
                                                          on Jan 22, and
                                                          a release on
                                                          Feb 5?<br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          > allan<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I think if we
                                                          are going for
                                                          your proposed
                                                          plan, then we
                                                          are official
                                                          in <br>
                                                          code freeze
                                                          for 1.2.1.<br>
                                                          If you want to
                                                          proceed, I can
                                                          prepare
                                                          release notes.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Cheers,<br>
                                                          Ralph<br>
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                                              <br clear="all">
                                              <br>
                                              -- <br>
                                              <div dir="ltr">"well, I
                                                stand up next to a
                                                mountain- and I chop it
                                                down with the edge of my
                                                hand"</div>
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                                          </div>
                                          <br clear="all">
                                          <br>
                                          -- <br>
                                          <div dir="ltr">"well, I stand
                                            up next to a mountain- and I
                                            chop it down with the edge
                                            of my hand"</div>
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                                        <br>
                                      </div>
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                                  </div>
                                  <br clear="all">
                                  <br>
                                  -- <br>
                                  <div dir="ltr">"well, I stand up next
                                    to a mountain- and I chop it down
                                    with the edge of my hand"</div>
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                          </div>
                          <br clear="all">
                          <br>
                          -- <br>
                          <div dir="ltr">"well, I stand up next to a
                            mountain- and I chop it down with the edge
                            of my hand"</div>
                        </blockquote>
                      </div>
                      <br clear="all">
                      <br>
                      -- <br>
                      <div dir="ltr">"well, I stand up next to a
                        mountain- and I chop it down with the edge of my
                        hand"</div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <br>
                  </div>
                </blockquote>
              </div>
              <br clear="all">
              <br>
              -- <br>
              <div dir="ltr">"well, I stand up next to a mountain- and I
                chop it down with the edge of my hand"</div>
            </blockquote>
            <br>
          </div>
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      </div>
      <br clear="all">
      <br>
      -- <br>
      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">"well, I stand up next to a
        mountain- and I chop it down with the edge of my hand"</div>
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Von meinem Seibert gesendet</pre>
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