debian-flyer: webpages, cvs2git (was: Re: Debian promo material)

[Joost van Baal-Ilić]

Hi again Laura,

[dropping Jan Wagner, debian-events-eu from Cc; adding events@ ]

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 05:14:31AM +0100, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote:
> [dropping press@, events@, adding debian-flyers-devel]
> 
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 02:24:10PM +0100, Laura Arjona Reina wrote:
> > El 15/02/17 a las 14:12, Joost van Baal-Ilić escribió:
> > >
> > >Debian fosdem booth staffer & debian-flyers "admin" here.
> > >
> > >On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 08:23:43AM +0100, Jan Wagner wrote:
> > >>
> > >>looking forward to the CLT[1] I'm asking me if there is recent promo
> > >>material available. For example flyers and such things.
> > >>http://debian-flyers.alioth.debian.org/ seems to be a cruft and I was
> > >>unable to find anything with recent information. Did I miss something?
> > >
> > >At FOSDEM we've had a pretty abundantly filled booth; all tshirts and hoodies
> > >and stuff like that (supplied by our friends from Debian france, as well as by
> > >some dutch debianites) were solled out.
> > >
> > >Our friend Anne Bezemer has sent me a patch to update the contents of the
> > >Debian flyer; I hope to get to it to apply it soonish...  I believe he's also
> > >the one who has printed the latest batch of them; people are still interested
> > >in taking them to read about our project.  I feel they're still useful.
> > >
> > >However, indeed the debian-flyers project shows its age.  Feel free to
> > >resurrect it of course.  Migrating from *cough* CVS to git is high on _my_
> > >wishlist...
> > >
> > 
> > (with my website-team-member hat on)
> > 
> > When Elena Grandi made the hexagonal sticker, I didn't know about the
> > debian-flyers project (I learnt about it in this thread), so I uploaded it
> > directly to the website:
> > 
> > https://www.debian.org/logos/
> > 
> > Now this thread generates some TODO items that I'll try to tackle soon:
> > 
> > * update soon the debian-flyers project with that additional sticker, and
> > maybe other resources present in the website (in www.d.o/logos or
> > www.d.o/banners).
> > 
> > * Add a link to the debian-flyers repo in those pages of the website (at
> > least, /logos, /banners and /misc/merchandise)

https://www.debian.org/misc/merchandise is (up to now) only for stuff one
would have to pay for.  Flyers have been given away gratis always.
Maybe /logos/ is better suitable since the sticker is there too.

BTW, there's https://www.debian.org/events/material which _does_ list the
debian-flyers project...  That page is perfect for the flyer, imho.  The
sticker should be there too, btw...

Maybe /events/material is too hard to find and it should have some more links
poiting to it?

And then there's the Debian Reference Card which for sure should be added to
https://www.debian.org/events/material . Unfortunately, this Reference Card has
no friendly webpage, just a link from https://www.debian.org/doc/ and an "ugly"
index at https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/refcard/ .


> > * Help in the cvs -> git conversion
> 
> I just gave Laura admin-rights on the debian-flyers CVS repo @ alioth, after
> discussion on IRC.
> 
> Laura: the current flyers build system uses CVS Id's to check for up to
> date-ness of translations.  IIRC that's the same system as used by
> www.debian.org.  Reimplementing this in git has been a showstopper for the
> conversion to git for the last couple of years (decennia ?).  I'm perfectly
> fine by any non-perfect solution to this problem.  Just dumping the
> check-functionality is an acceptable tradeoff, imnsho.
> 
> And thanks _a_ _lot_ for volunteering!

See also this message from Paul Wise at
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-flyers-devel/2015-April/000333.html :

"I expect that using po4a and normal gettext translation mechanisms would be
the right way to go."

And also:

On Wed Apr 1 08:15:39 UTC 2015 Paul wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-04-01 at 09:58 +0200, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote:

>> Integrated in SVN, right?
> No, the website still uses CVS.

>> Do you happen to know any project combining git and this version-shizzle?
> No. The only projects I know about that use it are the Debian website
> and the Debian flyers. Neither managed to escape it so far.


Bye,

Joost