From billchenchina2001 at gmail.com  Wed Aug  5 07:05:57 2026
From: billchenchina2001 at gmail.com (Tianyu Chen)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2026 14:05:57 +0800
Subject: should not recommend directly printing source SVG for
 hexagonal-sticker
Message-ID: <anLSxdn4GfBC5EGu@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I noticed that hexagonal-sticker/src/hexagonal*source.svg are symlinks to
../../pages.debian.net/files/hexagonal*.svg. However, for some source
svgs, they actually contain three layers:

- id="layer2", inkscape:label="bleed"
- id="layer3", inkscape:label="artwork"
- id="layer1", inkscape:label="guidelines"

there's a hexagonal-sticker/Makefile, it builds hexagonal*.svg and
hexagonal*.png from hexagonal*source.svg, only keeping layer3 (artwork).

The png(s) on https://debian.pages.debian.net/debian-flyers/ are without
the guidelines or bleeding, but the svg(s) are. I believe we should tell
people not to print source svg(s) with the guidelines. They should print
the PNG, or SVG with only layer3 (artwork). (or with bleed?)

Also, in the hexagonal svg, there's a link
https://terinjokes.github.io/StickerConstructorSpec/ (which is https://sticker.how now).
It specifies that the recommended hexagon sticker size should be 5.08
centimeters (2 inch). Their repo also has a reference photo with height and
width for hexagon stickers, which is 4.39cm (1.73in) x 5.08cm (2in).

https://github.com/terinjokes/StickersStandard/blob/9711a16/assets/hex-image.png

Maybe for future prints, we want people to print the hexagonal sticker with
the size?

-- 
Best,
Tianyu Chen


From joostvb-debian at mdcc.cx  Wed Aug  5 10:33:12 2026
From: joostvb-debian at mdcc.cx (Joost van =?utf-8?Q?Baal-Ili=C4=87?=)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2026 11:33:12 +0200
Subject: should not recommend directly printing source SVG for
 hexagonal-sticker
In-Reply-To: <anLSxdn4GfBC5EGu@mail.gmail.com>
References: <anLSxdn4GfBC5EGu@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <anMDWG_ImyVIA2FO@lepton.mdcc.cx>

Hi Tianyu Chen,

Thanks for your interest in Debian Flyers, and for your insightfull ideas on
our hexagonal stickers!  Unfortunately, I don't know much about svg layers and
our stickers: the files have been contributed by others.  So: if you have any
specific suggestions / patches / salsa MR's, I'd be very willing to have a look
and apply those.  Would that work for you?

Thanks again, Bye,

Joost


Le Wed, Aug 05, 2026 at 02:05:57PM +0800, Tianyu Chen a ?crit :
> Hi,
> 
> I noticed that hexagonal-sticker/src/hexagonal*source.svg are symlinks to
> ../../pages.debian.net/files/hexagonal*.svg. However, for some source
> svgs, they actually contain three layers:
> 
> - id="layer2", inkscape:label="bleed"
> - id="layer3", inkscape:label="artwork"
> - id="layer1", inkscape:label="guidelines"
> 
> there's a hexagonal-sticker/Makefile, it builds hexagonal*.svg and
> hexagonal*.png from hexagonal*source.svg, only keeping layer3 (artwork).
> 
> The png(s) on https://debian.pages.debian.net/debian-flyers/ are without
> the guidelines or bleeding, but the svg(s) are. I believe we should tell
> people not to print source svg(s) with the guidelines. They should print
> the PNG, or SVG with only layer3 (artwork). (or with bleed?)
> 
> Also, in the hexagonal svg, there's a link
> https://terinjokes.github.io/StickerConstructorSpec/ (which is https://sticker.how now).
> It specifies that the recommended hexagon sticker size should be 5.08
> centimeters (2 inch). Their repo also has a reference photo with height and
> width for hexagon stickers, which is 4.39cm (1.73in) x 5.08cm (2in).
> 
> https://github.com/terinjokes/StickersStandard/blob/9711a16/assets/hex-image.png
> 
> Maybe for future prints, we want people to print the hexagonal sticker with
> the size?
> 
> -- 
> Best,
> Tianyu Chen
> 
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> debian-flyers-devel at alioth-lists.debian.net
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From valhalla at trueelena.org  Thu Aug  6 10:13:09 2026
From: valhalla at trueelena.org (Elena ``of Valhalla'')
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2026 11:13:09 +0200
Subject: should not recommend directly printing source SVG for
 hexagonal-sticker
In-Reply-To: <anLSxdn4GfBC5EGu@mail.gmail.com>
References: <anLSxdn4GfBC5EGu@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <anRQIV1hZw4rZu8b@virginsteele.home.trueelena.org>

Hello

I'm the author of the SVG with those layers (some of the designs may
have been contributed by other people based on that)

On 2026-08-05 at 14:05:57 +0800, Tianyu Chen wrote:
> I noticed that hexagonal-sticker/src/hexagonal*source.svg are symlinks to
> ../../pages.debian.net/files/hexagonal*.svg. However, for some source
> svgs, they actually contain three layers:
> [...]
> - id="layer2", inkscape:label="bleed"
> - id="layer3", inkscape:label="artwork"
> - id="layer1", inkscape:label="guidelines"
> 
> there's a hexagonal-sticker/Makefile, it builds hexagonal*.svg and
> hexagonal*.png from hexagonal*source.svg, only keeping layer3 (artwork).
> 
> The png(s) on https://debian.pages.debian.net/debian-flyers/ are without
> the guidelines or bleeding, but the svg(s) are. I believe we should tell
> people not to print source svg(s) with the guidelines. They should print
> the PNG, or SVG with only layer3 (artwork). (or with bleed?)

both the PNG and SVG generated by the Makefile are indeed without guidelines
nor bleeding, and suitable for online uses, while for best printing
results the bleeding is required.

The source SVGs should have the guidelines layer hidden, and thus be
suitable for home printing on sticker paper, with a bleed for best
results, or hiding the bleed to have a reference for the cut.

Having the stickers printed professionally, however, will in most cases
require some manual work, since most printers will have specific
requests on how to add bleed *and cut lines* to the files sent to them,
and the source files have all the data required for that work, while the
generated ones could be missing something.

Some printers will however require just the final image: in those cases
indeed sending them the generated SVG may be the right thing to do.

> Also, in the hexagonal svg, there's a link
> https://terinjokes.github.io/StickerConstructorSpec/ (which is https://sticker.how now). [...]
> Maybe for future prints, we want people to print the hexagonal sticker with
> the size?

I think in most cases they have already been printed in that size?
(which is the size used in the SVG files)

-- 
Elena ``of Valhalla''
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