[Debian-ha-maintainers] Bug#576511: Info received (Bug#576511: drbd8-utils: Ships with violent default actions)

Josip Rodin joy at debbugs.entuzijast.net
Mon Oct 29 08:40:54 UTC 2012


Control: severity -1 critical

On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:54:11PM +0200, Philipp Hug wrote:
> control: severity -1 important
> 
> Josip,
> 
> Please don't upgrade the severity of this bug.
> 
> The defaults actually prevent further data loss for the majority of drbd users.
> In the normal setup the drbd device is the main storage device so the
> defaults make sense.
> 
> If you have a suggestion for a better default please go ahead and post it.

*facepalm* I have quoted chapter and verse from both the BTS manual and
the DRBD manual that support my claims. I've pasted the log messages from
my own data loss situation that happened because of this.

What you assert is the "normal setup" is both simply orthogonal to the
problem, and it's actually not defined to be so by your own documentation.

Imagine for a moment if, when encountering an I/O error, all other block
device drivers decided to instantly reboot/halt the machine.
One disk at /dev/sdc has an unreadable block - poof, everything else
you've been doing on the other 5 disks in the machine since the last
disk flush is gone. You think this is a reasonable default that the users
should expect?

In fact, if you had been listening to me from day one, you'd realize
that I'm not even asking you to actually fix this problem.
I'm merely asking you to make the users who aren't using your personally
preferred use case, but are nevertheless using an apparently valid and
supported use case, aware that these otherwise undocumented defaults are
going to be causing them data loss.

In retrospect, all this is really ridiculous. I've made every good-faith
effort to be constructive in this bug report, and in turn you've just thrown
condescending platitudes at me in an apparent effort to avoid doing anything
about this in wheezy (otherwise, what's the point of using a non-RC
severity?). I suppose you can continue to do so, but that will simply force
me to request that this package is removed from wheezy elsewhere, given that
it's unfit for release both because of a software problem and because of a
human problem.

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