[Debian-l10n-devel] i18n work session to deal with DDT{P|SS} problems and move i18n.debian.net to DSA

Christian PERRIER bubulle at debian.org
Tue Feb 1 06:02:09 UTC 2011


About two weeks ago, I wrote the following mail to -i18n, CC'ed to a
number of "key" people. It apparently went unnoticed by most of these
key people, I'm afraid (except Stefano)....

So, this is an attempt to get more answers...

Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubulle at debian.org):
> (yet another thread about DDTP on churro, started on -i18n)
> 
> Quoting Andreas Tille (andreas at an3as.eu):
> > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:07:17PM +0100, Martin Eberhard Schauer wrote:
> > > The host is located somewhere in spain
> > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-i18n/2007/12/msg00058.html.
> > 
> > Putting a host into debian.org domain and under DSA control is independ
> > from where it is physically located.  I also think that it might be
> > perfectly possible to use some other hardware - recently there was an
> > offer for hosting such services for free on debian-private at l.d.o.
> 
> The service in the Extremadura hosting facility has most often been of
> good quality (if we expect a few weeks where we had to fight to get
> SSH access to the machine working again after some firewalling
> changes, back in 2009).
> 
> A limitation is that our contact there, César Gomez Martin (who
> everybody who attended DC9 knows well) is not living in the same city
> the host is located (churro is in Merida while César lives in
> Caceres).
> 
> So, in some cases, we might have a few service shortages and delays to
> restore things.
> 
> Anyway, it is time to move these services elsewhere and,
> definitely, under DSA control. Felipe was working on that but, again,
> RL seems to be hardly competing with that for him.
> 
> CC'ing Felipe in order to get more details about the current
> situation. Felipe, if you're really stuck, we might maybe consider an
> alternative by finding a volunteer in the DSA team?
> 
> On the other hand, whatever is the situation wrt general system
> administration on churro, we also need someone to take a *close care*
> of the DDTP/DDTSS. Someone really knowing how things are organized and
> working together. As already written, I know about three people who
> fit this (or part of this) definition: Grisu, Nicolas François and
> Martijn van Osterhout (DDTSS author).
> 
> 
> CC'ing everybody, plus the "debian-l10n-devel" mailing list
> which...has, indeed, the very same people subscribed.
> 
> A crazy idea that starts emerging in my mind is maybe bringing all
> these people, plus 1 or 2 DSA team members (faw is part of DSA, IIRC)
> in the same place for 2-3 full days, lock them, feed them with pizzas
> and coke (no beer) and only unlock them when churro is fully under DSA
> control and more than 1 person is able to repair the DDTP/DDTSS.
> 
> CC'ing Zack/Stefano. I can think about one place we both were in the last
> months, in Paris, that could fit this definition (folks from Académie
> de Versailles, Stefano.
> 

Stefano agreed later on, with his DPL hat, that this is a valuable
goal. He even proposed to host such work meeting in the Center for
Research and Innovation on Free Software (IRILL) in Paris.

However, for this to happen, I would ideally need to have Felipe,
Nicolas, Michael "Grisu" and Martijn (plus any other volunteer).

Is there a possibility (assuming that your travel and hosting expenses
are covered) for you guys to participate to such a meeting. Given the
current situation for i18n.d.n, it's pointless to organize it if you
can't be here.

No need to set it up urgently. Some week-end in March, April or even
May would be fine.

But an answer would help a lot..:-)

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