[Debian-l10n-devel] i18n work session to deal with DDT{P|SS} problems and move i18n.debian.net to DSA

Thu Mar 10 05:44:46 UTC 2011

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Oh gee!  I'm so sorry for taking so much time to reply, I'm still
trying to get back on track, but RL seems to be under control for
a month now, just a huge backlog.

On 01-02-2011 04:02, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubulle at debian.org):
>> (yet another thread about DDTP on churro, started on -i18n)
>>
>> Quoting Andreas Tille (andreas at an3as.eu):
>>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:07:17PM +0100, Martin Eberhard Schauer wrote:
>>>> The host is located somewhere in spain
>>>> http://lists.debian.org/debian-i18n/2007/12/msg00058.html.
>>>
>>> Putting a host into debian.org domain and under DSA control is independ
>>> from where it is physically located.  I also think that it might be
>>> perfectly possible to use some other hardware - recently there was an
>>> offer for hosting such services for free on debian-private at l.d.o.
>>
>> The service in the Extremadura hosting facility has most often been of
>> good quality (if we expect a few weeks where we had to fight to get
>> SSH access to the machine working again after some firewalling
>> changes, back in 2009).
>>
>> A limitation is that our contact there, César Gomez Martin (who
>> everybody who attended DC9 knows well) is not living in the same city
>> the host is located (churro is in Merida while César lives in
>> Caceres).
>>
>> So, in some cases, we might have a few service shortages and delays to
>> restore things.
>>
>> Anyway, it is time to move these services elsewhere and,
>> definitely, under DSA control. Felipe was working on that but, again,
>> RL seems to be hardly competing with that for him.
>>
>> CC'ing Felipe in order to get more details about the current
>> situation. Felipe, if you're really stuck, we might maybe consider an
>> alternative by finding a volunteer in the DSA team?

Just for the record, I'm waiting for DSA to allocate hardware so we
can start moving things around.  I don't think we need much more
than a couple of days to move everything and test it.

>> On the other hand, whatever is the situation wrt general system
>> administration on churro, we also need someone to take a *close care*
>> of the DDTP/DDTSS. Someone really knowing how things are organized and
>> working together. As already written, I know about three people who
>> fit this (or part of this) definition: Grisu, Nicolas François and
>> Martijn van Osterhout (DDTSS author).

Just for the records, I'm also interested in contributing some more
to DDTP/DDTSS and the robots in general. :)

>> CC'ing everybody, plus the "debian-l10n-devel" mailing list
>> which...has, indeed, the very same people subscribed.
>>
>> A crazy idea that starts emerging in my mind is maybe bringing all
>> these people, plus 1 or 2 DSA team members (faw is part of DSA, IIRC)
>> in the same place for 2-3 full days, lock them, feed them with pizzas
>> and coke (no beer) and only unlock them when churro is fully under DSA
>> control and more than 1 person is able to repair the DDTP/DDTSS.
>>
>> CC'ing Zack/Stefano. I can think about one place we both were in the last
>> months, in Paris, that could fit this definition (folks from Académie
>> de Versailles, Stefano.
>>
> 
> Stefano agreed later on, with his DPL hat, that this is a valuable
> goal. He even proposed to host such work meeting in the Center for
> Research and Innovation on Free Software (IRILL) in Paris.
> 
> However, for this to happen, I would ideally need to have Felipe,
> Nicolas, Michael "Grisu" and Martijn (plus any other volunteer).
> 
> Is there a possibility (assuming that your travel and hosting expenses
> are covered) for you guys to participate to such a meeting. Given the
> current situation for i18n.d.n, it's pointless to organize it if you
> can't be here.
> 
> No need to set it up urgently. Some week-end in March, April or even
> May would be fine.
> 
> But an answer would help a lot..:-)

I don't have any special dates blocked on the calendar regarding
weekends.  As long as I have a couple of weeks to prepare that
would be work quite well for me.  I'm not sure any specific dates
were mentioned, I couldn't find them on the message (and I have
such a huge backlog of -i18n and -l10n-devel to read), just let
me know if there are some dates "flying around".

Kind regards,
- -- 
Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom!
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