[Debian-med-packaging] Fwd: Re: [j.johnson at imb.uq.edu.au: Re: Installation of binary tools inside MEME]

[James Johnson]

Hi Tim,

On 28/02/13 11:05, Timothy Bailey wrote:
> David,
>
> I assume the most important thing is that the copyright and "for 
> non-profit use only"
> warning is included in the Debian repackaging.  If those are 
> preserved, I'm happy.
If you refer to the original email, that's exactly what they were hoping 
to avoid. GLAM2 has a more permissive license than the MEME Suite. The 
reason they want to keep the 2 packages is so that people can use GLAM2 
under the more permissive license... They were hoping to back-port any 
improvements to GLAM2 while keeping its original license.

~James
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tim
> On 28/02/13 2:07 AM, Gibbons, David wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> My only concern would be that we not create any conflict with the 
>> arrangement we have between the University of Washington, UC San 
>> Diego and the University of Queensland regarding The Meme Suite.  The 
>> technical compatibilities of the various versions are outside of my 
>> scope, but as long as we are not deviating from the agreement between 
>> our institutions, I have no issues with the request.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for copying me.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> David G. Gibbons, PE, MBA
>>
>> Assistant Director
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>> Physical Sciences Licensing
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>> Technology Transfer Office, UC San Diego
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>> 9500 Gilman Drive, MC 0910
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>> La Jolla, CA 92093-0910
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>> dgibbons at ucsd.edu
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>> http://invent.ucsd.edu
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>> *From:*Timothy Bailey [mailto:t.bailey at imb.uq.edu.au]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:13 AM
>> *To:* James Johnson
>> *Cc:* Gibbons, David; Martin Frith; MEME Support; Debian Med 
>> Packaging Team
>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Re: [j.johnson at imb.uq.edu.au: Re: Installation of 
>> binary tools inside MEME]
>>
>> James,
>>
>> On 18/02/13 11:51 AM, James Johnson wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Tim, Dave,
>>
>>     The Debian Med Packaging Team want to know if they can backport
>>     GLAM2 improvements (presuming there are any?) in the MEME Suite
>>     to the more permissively licensed GLAM2 repository?
>>
>> I have no problems with this as long as they do the work.
>>
>> However, that will mean that the Debian version of Glam2 differs from 
>> the "standalone" version
>> Martin created.  It will match the "MEME Suite" version, though.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> ~James
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
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>> *Subject: *
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>> Re: [j.johnson at imb.uq.edu.au <mailto:j.johnson at imb.uq.edu.au>: Re: 
>> Installation of binary tools inside MEME]
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>> *Date: *
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>> Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:04:58 +0000
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>> *From: *
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>> Tim Booth <avarus at fastmail.fm> <mailto:avarus at fastmail.fm>
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>> *To: *
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>> Andreas Tille <andreas at fam-tille.de> <mailto:andreas at fam-tille.de>
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>> *CC: *
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>> Debian Med Packaging Team 
>> <debian-med-packaging at lists.alioth.debian.org> 
>> <mailto:debian-med-packaging at lists.alioth.debian.org>, James Johnson 
>> <j.johnson at imb.uq.edu.au> <mailto:j.johnson at imb.uq.edu.au>
>>
>> Hi,
>>   
>> > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 06:08:08PM +0000, Tim Booth wrote:
>> > > Yes, I did start looking at Meme but quickly realised it was a lot more
>> > > work than I thought to do a proper job on it.  I think all I wanted to
>> > > do in the first instance was to get an updated glam2 binary package
>> > > based upon the improved glam2 source within the meme code.  I guess this
>> > > is now the definitive glam2 as the original standalone source hasn't
>> > > been updated since 2008.
>> >
>> > We might try to do some comparison.  Charles previously mentioned that
>> > we should keep the glam2 package from Debian which is free (PD) and meme
>> > currently has a non-free license (according to DFSG).  So if glam2 inside
>> > meme is basically unchanged it might be reasonable to ignore the code
>> > inside meme (or asking upstream for permission to backport the changes.)
>>   
>> A quick "diff" across the original glam2 vs. the meme glam2 suggests
>> that several new options have been added for meme - see
>> src/glam2_args.c.
>>   
>> I would imagine that scripts within meme rely on these options.  In
>> fact, a quick grepping shows that scripts/glam2_webservice.pl.in calls
>> "glam2 -M" which is an option added for meme.  I've not looked for other
>> examples.
>>   
>> I hope that upstream can at least be persuaded to put their changes to
>> glam2 under a free license like the original glam2.  They may not be
>> legally bound to do so but it would be highly disingenuous  of them to
>> refuse.
>>   
>> Cheers,
>>   
>> TIM
>>   
>>   
>> -- 
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>>   
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Timothy L. Bailey
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