Bug#637397: Possible solutions

[Alastair McKinstry]

On 2011-08-28 16:47, Sylvestre Ledru wrote:
> Le dimanche 28 août 2011 à 17:30 +0200, Mathieu Malaterre a écrit :
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Sylvestre Ledru<sylvestre at debian.org>  wrote:
>>> Le samedi 27 août 2011 à 13:31 +0300, Anton Gladky a écrit :
>>>> I see only 2 opportunities to fix it:
>>>>    1) Disable python-support in paraview;
>>>>    2) Claim, that paraview conflicts with python-vtk;
>>> 3) get in touch with upstream and ask them to consider changing the name
>>> of the binary.
>> paraview-python is clearly in violation with §4.13
>>
>> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-embeddedfiles
>>
>> It was tolerated that paraview be build with the convenient VTK
>> library, but now the package are now installing vtk related tools
>> (tools that are already installed by VTK-* package), eg:
>>
>> http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=debian-science/packages/paraview.git;a=blob;f=debian/paraview-python.install;h=8eacd2f050f81c46a1657e75879af9681b67ee22;hb=HEAD
>>
>> I still do not understand why this is done ?
> I am not the one who packaged paraview initially.
>
> To my opinion, there are several reasons it has been done this way:
> * if the vtk version differs from the one needed from paraview, there is
> no need to patch the software to manage the new release (I don't know if
> there is many differences between the versions)
> * if the embedded version of VTK is patched for paraview usages, it is
> hard to backport the patches into the vtk libraries...
> * it is the lazy way :) and developers are lazy...
>
> Anyway, these reasons are not blocker. We should work on the paraview
> packaging to stop doing it. It will also greatly improve build time of
> paraview (which takes a very long time).
Will the proposed VTK 5.7 / VTK5.8 used by VisIT (see 
http://www.visitusers.org/index.php?title=VTK_Upgrade)
be compatible with Paraview, or a replacement for VTK 5.6 ?
It might be best to ensure that One Good VTK is produced, and can be the 
base of VTK / VisIT / Paraview


> Mathieu, are you aware of an option of paraview like
> --do-not-use-embedded-vtk-but-please-use-the-one-from-the-distro ?
>
> Thank,
> Sylvestre
>
>
>
Regards
Alastair

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