From dimpase at gmail.com  Sun Sep 21 22:11:46 2025
From: dimpase at gmail.com (Dima Pasechnik)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2025 16:11:46 -0500
Subject: [Debian-science-sagemath] [sage-support] problem compiling 10.8
 beta-3 on Debien Forky/sid
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On Debian Testing with system ecl testing I get

[maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;; Compiling
/home/dp/sage/local/var/tmp/sage/build/maxima-5.47.0/src/src/maxima-package.lisp.
[maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;; OPTIMIZE levels: Safety=2, Space=0,
Speed=3, Debug=2
[maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;;
[maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;; Internal error:
[maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;;   ** Error code 1 when executing
[maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;; (EXT:RUN-PROGRAM "gcc" ("-I."
"-I/usr/include/" "-Wdate-time" "-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2" "-D_GNU_SOURCE"
"-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64" "-g" "-O2"
"-Werror=implicit-function-declaration"
"-ffile-prefix-map=/build/reproducible-path/ecl-24.5.10+ds=."
"-fstack-protector-strong" "-fstack-clash-protection" "-Wformat"
"-Werror=format-security" "-fcf-protection" "-fPIC" "-D_THREAD_SAFE"
"-Dlinux" "-O2" "-c" "binary-ecl/maxima-package.c" "-o"
"binary-ecl/maxima-package.o")):
[maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;; In file included from
/usr/include/ecl/ecl.h:81,
[maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;;                  from
/usr/include/ecl/ecl-cmp.h:31,
[maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;;                  from
binary-ecl/maxima-package.c:5:
[maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;; /usr/include/ecl/object.h:27:13:
error: 'bool' cannot be defined via 'typedef'
[maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;;    27 | typedef int bool;
[maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;;       |             ^~~~
[maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;; /usr/include/ecl/object.h:27:13:
note: 'bool' is a keyword with '-std=c23' onwards
[maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;      - Binary file
binary-ecl/maxima-package.fas is old or does not exist.

which is not a surprise, as the (unpatched, apparently) ecl used by
Debian is not compatible with gcc 15.
It's a Debian bug, I think.
They can use our patches in  build/pkgs/ecl/patches/ to make it work.

Dima

On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 3:47?PM Thierry Dumont
<tdumont at math.univ-lyon1.fr> wrote:
>
> Ah...
> I am on Debian Forky (sid), up todate.
> But as
> ./configure -with-system-ecl=no
> actually *solved* the problem for both stable and beta-3 versions, I did
> not keep the logs...
>
> t.
>
> Le 21/09/2025 ? 20:19, Dima Pasechnik a ?crit :
> > On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 11:04?AM Dima Pasechnik <dimpase at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thierry, what Debian are you on?
> > Also, could you please post the full log of maxima spkg build, not the
> > bottom part only?
> >
> > I am trying to reproduce this on Debian stable (trixie), with not yet
> > announced beta4, but already
> > available via git) and it all works there, with system-wide ecl.
> >
> > However, I see
> >
> > make[3]: *** No rule to make target
> > '/home/dp/sage/pkgs/sage-conf/_sage_conf/_conf.py', needed by
> > '/home/dp/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/installed/sage_conf-10.8.beta4'.
> > Stop.
> >
> > It goes away if I do
> >
> > ./configure --disable-sage_conf
> >
> > I've also noticed that ./sage -t src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py hangs
> > indefinitely (with system-wide fricas installed)
> >
> > I am running Debian in a podman containter (sort of docker, but open-source).
> > That's "podman run -it debian".
> >
> > Command-wise it's mostly compatible with docker.
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 4:34?AM Thierry Dumont
> >> <tdumont at math.univ-lyon1.fr> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> After an update of the system, sage (stable and 10.3 beta-8) could no
> >>> more be run.
> >>>
> >>> So, on 10.8 beta 3, I did
> >>>
> >>> make distclean
> >>> ./configure
> >>> make reconfigure
> >>> make
> >>> and I got a problem with maxima:
> >>>
> >>> The following package(s) may have failed to build (not necessarily
> >>> during this run of 'make all-start'):
> >>>
> >>> * package:         maxima-5.47.0
> >>>
> >>> Trying again with
> >>>
> >>> ./configure -with-system-maxima=no
> >>
> >> try
> >> ./configure -with-system-ecl=no
> >>
> >> The problem is not in Maxima package, but in incompatibility of your
> >> system-wide ecl with the current setup.
> >>
> >> That's definitely something we need to fix soon.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I got the same message.
> >>>
> >>> (log file is joined)
> >>>
> >>> Yours,
> >>> Thierry
> >>>
> >>> --
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From dimpase at gmail.com  Sun Sep 21 23:06:52 2025
From: dimpase at gmail.com (Dima Pasechnik)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2025 17:06:52 -0500
Subject: [Debian-science-sagemath] [sage-support] problem compiling 10.8
 beta-3 on Debien Forky/sid
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I've submitted
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1115924


On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 4:11?PM Dima Pasechnik <dimpase at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Debian Testing with system ecl testing I get
>
> [maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;; Compiling
> /home/dp/sage/local/var/tmp/sage/build/maxima-5.47.0/src/src/maxima-package.lisp.
> [maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;; OPTIMIZE levels: Safety=2, Space=0,
> Speed=3, Debug=2
> [maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;;
> [maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;; Internal error:
> [maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;;   ** Error code 1 when executing
> [maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;; (EXT:RUN-PROGRAM "gcc" ("-I."
> "-I/usr/include/" "-Wdate-time" "-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2" "-D_GNU_SOURCE"
> "-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64" "-g" "-O2"
> "-Werror=implicit-function-declaration"
> "-ffile-prefix-map=/build/reproducible-path/ecl-24.5.10+ds=."
> "-fstack-protector-strong" "-fstack-clash-protection" "-Wformat"
> "-Werror=format-security" "-fcf-protection" "-fPIC" "-D_THREAD_SAFE"
> "-Dlinux" "-O2" "-c" "binary-ecl/maxima-package.c" "-o"
> "binary-ecl/maxima-package.o")):
> [maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;; In file included from
> /usr/include/ecl/ecl.h:81,
> [maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;;                  from
> /usr/include/ecl/ecl-cmp.h:31,
> [maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;;                  from
> binary-ecl/maxima-package.c:5:
> [maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;; /usr/include/ecl/object.h:27:13:
> error: 'bool' cannot be defined via 'typedef'
> [maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;;    27 | typedef int bool;
> [maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;;       |             ^~~~
> [maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;;; /usr/include/ecl/object.h:27:13:
> note: 'bool' is a keyword with '-std=c23' onwards
> [maxima-5.47.0] [spkg-install] ;      - Binary file
> binary-ecl/maxima-package.fas is old or does not exist.
>
> which is not a surprise, as the (unpatched, apparently) ecl used by
> Debian is not compatible with gcc 15.
> It's a Debian bug, I think.
> They can use our patches in  build/pkgs/ecl/patches/ to make it work.
>
> Dima
>
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 3:47?PM Thierry Dumont
> <tdumont at math.univ-lyon1.fr> wrote:
> >
> > Ah...
> > I am on Debian Forky (sid), up todate.
> > But as
> > ./configure -with-system-ecl=no
> > actually *solved* the problem for both stable and beta-3 versions, I did
> > not keep the logs...
> >
> > t.
> >
> > Le 21/09/2025 ? 20:19, Dima Pasechnik a ?crit :
> > > On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 11:04?AM Dima Pasechnik <dimpase at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thierry, what Debian are you on?
> > > Also, could you please post the full log of maxima spkg build, not the
> > > bottom part only?
> > >
> > > I am trying to reproduce this on Debian stable (trixie), with not yet
> > > announced beta4, but already
> > > available via git) and it all works there, with system-wide ecl.
> > >
> > > However, I see
> > >
> > > make[3]: *** No rule to make target
> > > '/home/dp/sage/pkgs/sage-conf/_sage_conf/_conf.py', needed by
> > > '/home/dp/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/installed/sage_conf-10.8.beta4'.
> > > Stop.
> > >
> > > It goes away if I do
> > >
> > > ./configure --disable-sage_conf
> > >
> > > I've also noticed that ./sage -t src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py hangs
> > > indefinitely (with system-wide fricas installed)
> > >
> > > I am running Debian in a podman containter (sort of docker, but open-source).
> > > That's "podman run -it debian".
> > >
> > > Command-wise it's mostly compatible with docker.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 4:34?AM Thierry Dumont
> > >> <tdumont at math.univ-lyon1.fr> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> After an update of the system, sage (stable and 10.3 beta-8) could no
> > >>> more be run.
> > >>>
> > >>> So, on 10.8 beta 3, I did
> > >>>
> > >>> make distclean
> > >>> ./configure
> > >>> make reconfigure
> > >>> make
> > >>> and I got a problem with maxima:
> > >>>
> > >>> The following package(s) may have failed to build (not necessarily
> > >>> during this run of 'make all-start'):
> > >>>
> > >>> * package:         maxima-5.47.0
> > >>>
> > >>> Trying again with
> > >>>
> > >>> ./configure -with-system-maxima=no
> > >>
> > >> try
> > >> ./configure -with-system-ecl=no
> > >>
> > >> The problem is not in Maxima package, but in incompatibility of your
> > >> system-wide ecl with the current setup.
> > >>
> > >> That's definitely something we need to fix soon.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> I got the same message.
> > >>>
> > >>> (log file is joined)
> > >>>
> > >>> Yours,
> > >>> Thierry
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-support" group.
> > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-support+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com.
> > >>> To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-support/b507bcbd-4a3e-47a4-a847-d3d158a3994d%40math.univ-lyon1.fr.
> > >
> >
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