[Freedombox-discuss] Introductions

Chris Wj chris0wj at gmail.com
Thu Aug 26 19:02:07 UTC 2010

Hi all, I'm Chris (ChrisK on the wiki). I'm not a Debian dev, but I was
greatly inspired by the latest debconf videos. I have a CS and Software
Engineering background and can hack on C/C++, Python, Vala, basic
Javascript, etc (just don't make me code Java! Me <---10 ft pole---> Java).
I will help in any way to make this device a reality. I think we need a few
(3ish) (Design, Architecture, Community) project leads to really organize
people and set some structure to the project. It looks like many people are
itching to contribute, which is awesome.


On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Ethan Frey <ethan at chaostheater.net> wrote:

> Hi, I'm Ethan Frey, a Debian/Linux user and (web) programmer.  I also saw
> the videos of Eben Moglen from Debconf and was quite inspired to help make
> this a reality.  I was very happy to find there was already a group
> brainstorming how to make this happen, and I agree with Lars' proposal to
> have some short-term targets to aim for.  This helps us see the project
> proceed and have more context (and a testground) for harder issues like a
> p2p distributed,  encrypted, highly available filesystem that is resistant
> to abuse (which is a great goal, but quite demanding as a starting-point).
> I am not a debian developer and don't feel in the position to prepare
> packages,  but I would like to contribute my time and skills to the
> project.
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:40:03 +0200, Bruno BEAUFILS <bruno at boulgour.com>
> wrote:
> > One the one hand I really think that we should be able to offer a
> > solid framework to developpers so that thay can imagine any services
> > they want to offer. On the other hand we need to offer reference net
> > services we need to be at least, IMHO :
> >
> > * mail server (with webmail)
> >
> > * web server (with blog/wiki/cms tool)
> >
> > * calendar server (with webclient)
> >
> > * instant messaging server (jabber or something like that)
> >
> > * file server (with web access to certain part, typically photos)
> I agree that these webapps are pretty much the basis of a box that would
> be useful to your average (non-programmer/admin) user. There are many more
> features that would be great to have, such as GPG encryption with a network
> of trust, distributed filesystems/backups, a distributed social network,
> plug-and-play PBX system, tor routing, etc. But I also  see the value of
> having a usable box sooner rather than later, when there is the time to
> implement all the hard (interesting) features.  There is already a
> commercial software trying to do something like this basic feature set (at
> least web server, calendar, and file server):
> http://www.tonidoplug.com/tonido_plug.html
> I would like to work to prepare some of webapps to be deployed on an early
> version of the box (eg. Alpha 4 in Lars' model).  The most interesting to
> me is a webmail client.  I envision something like this:
>  * Modern interface (eg. something like gmail with conversations and
> labels)
>  * Easily aggregate mails from multiple POP/IMAP/webmail servers (yahoo,
> hotmail, gmail, etc.)
>  * Receive and send mail directly from a local (qmail?) server
>  * Support GPG encryption/decryption on the server (eventually tied into
> other services and the web of trust)
>  ** Nice UI design and AJAX-y responsiveness would be a plus
> I looked for some webmail apps and most of them work like IMAP clients,
> and do not and cannot support conversations/labels.  Posterity seems like a
> nice candidate, as it mostly supports the first three requirements, and is
> writen in Python (not PHP :).  However, the development seems to be
> abandoned about 2 years ago.  I am thinking of shaking the cobwebs off the
> code and extending some of the functionality to match the above
> description.
> http://posterity.edgewall.org/wiki/Screenshots
> Does this seem like a useful project to help out with the freedom box?  Do
> the set of requirements seem good, or is there some big features I am
> forgetting?  And is anyone else out here a Python coder that wants to work
> on this as well?  Or does someone know the perfect webmail client that does
> all this already?
> I'm looking forward to getting to work and seeing what we can create
> together.
> Cheers,
>  Ethan
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