[Freedombox-discuss] Finding a good place to start

[paxcoder]

On 10/06/2010 09:44 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 08:17:46PM +0200, e.waelde wrote:
>> The next thing after that is probably "how does my FreedomBox form 
>> some sort of distributed storage with the others?".
>
> I dare say the world must be open even before that: Distributed data 
> should be optional, as not all FreedomBox owners can afford the 
> bandwidth costs (think dial-up GSM connections in Africa!). 

Yes, optional/choice is what we're talking about. Everything should be 
optional - we all want different things in our very own clouds (ehm, 
which we may share with others .-) ). (cont.)

>> I also think the fundamental problem is "how does one FreedomBox find 
>> another one".
>
> Some might already disagree with me at above small step: OpenID is 
> very much tied to the hierarchical DNS, which some might want to avoid.

(cont.)However, some core decisions were made which I agree with (eg. 
decentralization & dehierarchicalization) so naturally I promote them. 
Unlike stone, hard drives are easily re-written - including the wiki 
pages residing on them. But without respecting some basic design 
decisions (supported also by the Moglen's speech), FB would be a 
completely different project (one which I would probably not be a part 
of). So I must insist that we agree on decentralization & such, and 
before we have reached some kind of general agreement, I'll just have to 
repeat this over and over. These things are the future. If that 80 km 
wireless technology ever becomes a cheap reality, we should be ready to 
support the networking taken to another level. Your hypothetical 
Africans, by the way, are probably going to want to mesh.

Some issues are yet to be solved yes. That's what all these amazing 
people are here to do.

Thanks for your attention.
--Luka Marčetić

P.S. That being said, is anyone doing anything? :-D
P.P.S. Oh yes: Most people do PHP I think. Fear is irrational. You will 
be assim... eh what? I don't know who said that.