[Freedombox-discuss] need for concensus or not

Jonas Smedegaard dr at jones.dk
Sat Oct 9 13:23:23 UTC 2010


On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 07:53:39PM +0200, bertagaz wrote:
>On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 06:44:42PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 05:09:15PM +0200, bertagaz wrote: I see 
>> little need for decision making processes.  Most of the tasks, I 
>> believe, are not tied strongly to one another, so there should be 
>> plenty of room for disagreements.
>
>Well, to begin to work I guess we would need to agree on the 
>configuration debate (hack vs debconf) for example. Having a clean 
>decision about that would help to begin to explore how to implement. 
>But maybe I'm too pushy on this, and this project needs more 
>discussions.

If we were hired in a company to reach a common goal, then yes, it 
really would make sense for us to agree ahead on what that common goal 
was.

We are volunteer hackers, however.  It makes good sense to understand 
the individual goals of each other so as to not step on each others 
toes, have a common language when sharing ideas, and most importantly to 
avoid duplicated work.

But as I see it, if we restrict ourselves not only to a common direction 
but a (too specific) common goal, then what will most likely happen is 
that we loose valuable contributions, as we take the steam out of 
passionate hackers wanting to scratch their own personal itch, not the 
itch of a consensus team.

Specifically about hack vs. debconf (or sysadmin "dirty" hacks vs. 
distro style "clean" hacks, as I feel more accurately frame it), I 
believe I succeeded in raising my concerns (unlike some of my previous 
attempts at other teams). If some of us still favor sysadmin-style dirty 
hacks on top of Debian instead of distro-style clean hacks integrated 
with Debian, then let them do that - the rest of us can cherry-pick from 
their work in our slower pace. :-)


  - Jonas

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