[Freedombox-discuss] Leaving the (proprietary) cloud - my roadmap for FB

Jonas Smedegaard dr at jones.dk
Sun Oct 10 10:24:05 UTC 2010


On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 09:54:12AM +0000, Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson wrote:
>2010/10/10 Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson <bre at beanstalks-project.net>
>
>> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Melvin Carvalho <
>> melvincarvalho at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8 October 2010 14:01, Jonas Smedegaard <dr at jones.dk> wrote:
>>> > On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 12:54:34PM +0200, Arthur Lutz wrote
>>> >>
>>> >> When I think of the FreedomBox and leaving the cloud, the first 
>>> >> thing I think about migrating is not my email. One of the reasons 
>>> >> is that I'm quite dependent on it and don't really want an 
>>> >> adjustment period right now for this tool. When I think about 
>>> >> leaving the cloud, I want to migrate the least "critical" 
>>> >> services first, so I can start trusting my FB (stability, 
>>> >> security use etc.)
>>>
>>
>> I see FreedomBox as a nice drop-in home-server which is designed to 
>> be reachable from the wider internet. It'll run some web-servers, 
>> something like Diaspora... mine will probably handle my e-mail at 
>> some point, etc. But the killer feature for me is always the same: 
>> Automated, user-friendly backups.
>>
>> So my contribution to the list is:
>>
>>  * Time-machine/... -> dirvish + https + ...?

Interesting!  I didn't know about dirvish.


>> With some minor tweaks I've managed to get Dirvish to do fully 
>> automated, opportunistic backups of the family's computers (laptops 
>> etc.) that come and go from my home network, and then I grant access 
>> to the backup snapshots using an SSL+password-protected, publicly 
>> visible HTTP server.  This gives us both backups and access to all 
>> our files, all the time, from anywhere.
>>
>> I've also worked on auto-extracting and sorting media (mp3s etc) from 
>> the backups (using hard-links to save space, like Dirvish), allowing 
>> me to build a central media library without any manual work: just 
>> copy files to my laptop, let them sit for a backup cycle or two and 
>> then delete them. :-)

Please share the details.


>> The same idea may apply to other things, such as aggregating 
>> bookmarks or even making your own private version of Google's 
>> in-the-cloud web-surfing history. Extracting your e-mail "social 
>> graph" and using for light-weight personalized spam-filtering could 
>> also be very powerful.  You almost certainly don't share that stuff 
>> with 3rd parties, but being able to mine your own data can be really 
>> useful and on a home server, backups are a useful and elegant way to 
>> collect the raw data.

Good points.

I kept thinking of backup only as remote backup of FreedomBox data - 
completely missing the obvious backup of home machines *onto* 
FreedomBox.


>Also, I recognize that backups require a *large* external hard-drive 
>attached to our target plug computers. As would some of the other 
>features people would like to see, like media streaming or e-mail 
>storage. I don't think that's reason to exclude them, but it's another 
>way to categorize services: by size.

Yup!


  - Jonas

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