[Freedombox-discuss] OpenID by small players [was Re: A Simple Server Setup Guide]

[Melvin Carvalho]

On 24 August 2011 22:29, Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg at fifthhorseman.net> wrote:
> On 08/22/2011 05:02 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>> On 22 August 2011 10:52, Olivier Schwander
>
>>> What do you mean ? If livejournal provides a compliant OpenID, it should
>>> be accepted by other consumers. Do you mean there is a filter on
>>> livejournal identities ?
>>
>> These days OpenID is oriented towards Google, Facebook, Yahoo,
>> Microsoft logins etc.  (aka NASCAR).  Basically the board of the
>> OpenID foundation, which is what you'd expect.
>>
>> The smaller sites such as live journal are normally lucky to get a
>> look in.  Self hosted identities, are all but forgotten, in the
>> community.
>
> Hrm, i'm not sure what "lucky" means in this context.  If a site accepts
> OpenID logins (an OpenID "consumer"), it should accept any OpenID for
> authentication purposes.  Are you saying that there are specific OpenID
> consumers out there that do not *authorize* the use of their site with
> an OpenID other than the big players?

Yep.  I think Yahoo were the first, many (most?) others of the big
consumers have followed suit.

An OpenID server is a nice to have, and no doubt will let you in some
places (e.g. identi.ca) but the promise OpenID showed of becoming a
user centric, interoperable ID system just did not materialize.

Fingers crossed that things will change with the next version which is
being planned, but having had many conf calls with some of the main
architects in the movement, it seems that is unlikely to emerge
anytime soon.

>
> May First/People Link [0] (not one of the corporate megaliths) has been
> hosting its own OpenID service for years now.  We just transitioned from
> the Jan Rain provider code to a drupal-based OpenID provider arrangement
> [1].
>
> The standard itself has certainly changed over the years, but there is
> modern free software available to provide the latest implementation, and
> it interoperates reasonably well from what i've seen.
>
> I'd be curious to hear specific reports of OpenID lockout attempts.
>
>        --dkg
>
> [0] https://mayfirst.org/
> [1] https://support.mayfirst.org/ticket/3409
>
>
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