[Freedombox-discuss] Freedom box and sharism.cc

[Jon Phillips]

Hi long time friends.

I'm happy to hear you all are still working hard.

We are a hardware manufacture that releases as much of our
intellectual property as possible to customers.

If you want to build some product with us, I can provide our bank
account details for you to consider using us to build a completely
open product where we will releases all of the plans from the plugs to
the chips to the software.

Jon

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Jonas Smedegaard <dr at jones.dk> wrote:
> On 11-12-19 at 02:51pm, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>
>> On 12/19/2011 01:52 PM, Jon Phillips wrote:
>> > Has [FreedomBox] found a business model yet?
>>
>> Jonas and Bdale can talk about that better than I would.
>>
>
> I have no business model, just passion: I participate in Debian, a
> purely volunteer driven project.  On this mailinglist I participate in
> the software stack for the FreedomBox.
>
> Perhaps the better place to ask about business model is at the
> FreedomBox Foundation, which is a separate entity than Debian.  Or
> perhaps those involved in the Foundation will answer here - Bdale
> (Debian developer and leader of the Foundation "technical comitee") and
> James Vasile (Foundation CEO) are active both here and on other
> Foundation specific lists.
>
> Yes, I recognize that this separation is confusing for newcomers.
> Perhaps you are familiar with OLPC and its softare stack "Sugar" - the
> split here is similar, but confusingly both parts identify with same
> name. :-/
>
>
>> Jonas and Bdale are 2 debian developers working hard on the Freedom
>> box project. They are currently working with a company that decided to
>> provide them some plug-computer hardware for free,
>
> I have never heard of plug computers being given out for free.
>
> I bought myself 2 SheevaPlugs in the spring of 2009 - more than a year
> before the FreedomBox project was started. Since then I've hit the
> breaks on mying more gadgets due to limited personal finances.
>
> If someone has hardware available to hand out, I believe I could be more
> productive with a DreamPlug - since apparently noone but me show any
> interest in using SheevaPlug for FreedomBox, and its different
> bootstrapping slows down my work on the more flexible "boxer" build
> tool.
>
>
>> and on which they could last work on summer.
>
> Not true.  Work is ongoing, just not directly visible when looking
> narrowly at FreedomBox resources: The software stack for FreedomBox is
> Debian, and ideally this list and its related resources (e.g. git)
> should only be things unique to FreedomBox.
>
>
>
>> It is my understanding that the current hardware for the freedombox
>> project itself isn't free/open (Jonas and Bdale, please correct me if
>> I'm wrong), while the Milkymist One even has an open source mips CPU.
>>
>> I have no doubts that you would be capable of producing an awesome
>> open source plug computer, or anything else you would envision for the
>> freedombox project.
>
> Plug hardware was chosen because it runs Debian and exist as a consumer
> product - in smaller quantities for developers today, and likely in
> larger quantities for end-users when FreedomBox matures.
>
> Would certainly be super cool to have competing hardware available!
>
> If what you guys can offer is custom-produced hardware for a wholesale
> customer, then perhaps the Foundation would be interested - but I doubt
> it: more likely their stand is that hardware must exist on its own, not
> only as an investment by the Foundation.
>
>
> If you are interested in producing hardware ideal for prjects like
> FreedomBox, I strongly recommend that you - in addition to exploring
> this project more in detail - get in touch with http://emdebian.org/
> which is Debian folks devoted to and experienced with Debian on small
> devices.
>
>
> Hope that helps,
>
>  - Jonas
>
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