[Freedombox-discuss] Routing around nationwide and international Internet blocks

[Matt Joyce]

Stillyet I'd be very interested in that.

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:57 PM, stillyet at googlemail.com <
stillyet at googlemail.com> wrote:

> I don't think so at all. It would be very easy to code a Tahrir node as a
> Midlet (and indeed I intend to). Very cheap phones run Midlets these days,
> and within a very few years it will be only exceptional phones which won't
> run something like this.
>
> Sorry for top posting, this is sent from my phone.
>
> On 28 Feb 2011 00:00, "Matt Joyce" <matt at nycresistor.com> wrote:
> >
> > That would be perfect but integrating with cheap cellular phones as
> opposed to 600 dollar phones may prove difficult.
> >
> > -Matt
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 3:29 PM, stillyet at googlemail.com <
> stillyet at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 27 February 2011 21:37, Anthony Papillion <papillion at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> So I've been thinking about the recent Internet situation in Egypt
> where
> >>> the Mubarak government shut down the Internet in that country and I'm
> >>> wondering how the Freedom Box could have helped there.
> >>>
> >>> As I understand it, Freedom Boxes are able to communicate directly with
> >>> each other. But since this requires a network connection, what happens
> >>> if the network is turned off?  Now, I can see how the boxes would
> >>> continue to work if the network disconnect simply capped it at national
> >>> borders (intra-country communication between boxes would not be
> >>> affected) but what happens if the entire network both is truly shut off
> >>> and there is NO INTERNET either within the country or past borders?
> >>>
> >>> Are there contingency plans being built into the box for this scenario?
> >>> What are the options for handling something like this? Is anyone
> >>> currently working on this area?
> >>
> >>
> >> Ian Clarke ('Sanity', of FreeNet fame) is working on a distributed
> Twitter-replacement called Tahrir; he's very interested in making it cope
> well with network disruption and he and I have discussed how
> store-and-forward could be integrated into its architecture.
> >>
> >> The user-story I put to him was this:
> >>
> >> "Consider this user story. The protesters are in the square, and people
> are being shot. Ali takes a picture of a dying woman and posts it to Tahrir.
> Because all the Internet connections are down, his message doesn't make it
> out of the square. Bahiya is also in the square. Her phone is in her
> pocket, and she never takes it out. She leaves the square and goes to the
> airport, where she gives her phone to a tourist fleeing the country. The
> tourist flies home. Bahiya's phone is now able to communicate with other
> Tahrir nodes, and passes on all the posts it has collected - including Ali's
> photograph. Bahiya has never met Ali. She didn't see the person killed.
> Bahiya hasn't done anything at all with her phone - she hasn't had
> to. Store-and-forward technology built into her Tahrir client implementation
> has automatically collected the messages generated in the square and has
> held them until it can pass them on."
> >>
> >> Ian's response is that pictures are an inefficient thing to handle when
> bandwidth is critical, which is true, but he took on board that the
> highest-bandwidth way out of an area where network access is cut or
> monitored may be by physically moving some actual store.
> >>
> >> I'm proposing to co-operate with Ian on his project, but I'd like to do
> it in such a way that the store-and-forward layer could subsequently be
> adapted to work with e.g. Diaspora.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Simon
> >>
> >> https://github.com/sanity/tahrir
> >>
> >> --
> >> Simon Brooke :: http://www.journeyman.cc/~simon/
> >>
> >>         ;; Semper in faecibus sumus, sole profundum variat.
> >>
> >>
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