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e and fixing packages up will lead to installable package sets.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
I agree that usability testing and fine-tuning configs for each functionali=
ty considered for FreedomBox can be more conveniently done on a more common=
ly accessible and powerful laptop or desktop computer.<br>
<br>
Good point that such preparations can be made usable also on its own, not t=
ied to the 'box.<br>
<br>
I dislike calling such environment a "FreedomBox", however. =A0At=
most I would call it a Freedom system, as it isn't "box'ed&qu=
ot;.<br>
<br>
Anyone able to and interested in installing a plain standard Debian system =
can start *now* with above, be noisy both here on the list with experiences=
, and summarize findings at the wiki pages.<br>
<br>
Those more daring can try formalize the process a bit - either by making a =
snapshot with e.g. virtualbox, or (my recommended approach!) using live-bui=
ld as discussed yesterday.<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
b. hardware<br>
<br>
Packaging things up to run on single-board-computers (like alix), routers, =
plug computers is an entirely different task. Using Debian Pure Blends as a=
basis seems entirely appropriate.<br>
</blockquote>
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I (obviously - that's been my preaching/whining for a while now) agree =
to use the Debian Pure Blends approach - meaning everything _is_ Debian, no=
thing is "added on top" or "tuned". =A0For the end resu=
lt.<br>
<br>
Anyone disagreeing with <br>
For mockups, drafts, development previews, or whatever you wanna call it, I=
see no need for "purity", however: Throw things together in an u=
gly dirty way at first if you prefer, just have in mind that the messier yo=
u do it the more likely you are the only one capable of tidying the mess, a=
nd that the aim is having everything - including configuration, eventual GU=
I and artwork - packaged as Debian packages and included officially in Debi=
an.<br>
<br>
I do recommend anyone disagreeing with the Debian Pure Blends approach to s=
peak up about their preferred alternative. =A0Not necessarily to debate (qu=
ite possibly I won't "fight" over it but just continue work o=
n my own if noone wanna do it "my way") but so that you attract f=
ollowers in whatever approach you find more proper.<br>
<br>
<br>
As pointed out by others too, I also see a third part:<br>
<br>
c. design<br>
<br>
I am not a designer, so won't elaborate further on this (but sure have =
opinions, so don't expect silence from me on this topic :-P ).<div clas=
s=3D"im"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
The two tasks are not independant, but IHMO they are not strongly coupled.<=
br>
</blockquote>
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I assumed[1] it obvious that...<br>
<br>
=A0FreedomBox =3D Free software + box + design.<br>
<br>
Thanks for spelling it out! (and hope you don't mind my extending it :-=
)<br>
<br>
=A0- Jonas<br>
<br>
<br>
[1] In fact, what I assumed was obvious is that...<br>
<br>
=A0FreedomBox =3D Debian + Plug hardware + design<br>
<br>
...but clearly not all on this list share that.<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
-- <br>
=A0* Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt<br>
=A0* Tlf.: <a href=3D"tel:%2B45%2040843136" target=3D"_blank"></a><a href=
=3D"tel:%2B45%2040843136" target=3D"_blank">+45 40843136</a> =A0Website: <a=
href=3D"http://dr.jones.dk/" target=3D"_blank">http://dr.jones.dk/</a><br>
<br>
=A0[x] quote me freely =A0[ ] ask before reusing =A0[ ] keep private<br>
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