[Freedombox-discuss] Is / Is Not

James Vasile james at hackervisions.org
Wed Jun 1 14:17:13 UTC 2011

On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 11:06:42 +0200, bertagaz at ptitcanardnoir.org wrote:
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 05:42:51PM -0400, James Vasile wrote:
> > On Tue, 31 May 2011 16:22:56 -0400, Ted Smith <tedks at riseup.net> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 10:23 -0400, James Vasile wrote:
> > > > * Is a torrent client and can use TOR for that purpose.
> > > 
> > > Is this a typo? Using Tor for BitTorrent traffic is frowned up by the
> > > Tor Project, and the default exit policy is to block common BitTorrent
> > > ports, and BitTorrent clients commonly leak information which has the
> > > capacity to de-anonymize users on the same circuit. I don't see why the
> > > FreedomBox Foundation would want to recommend this, as it doesn't make
> > > sense from a political or technical standpoint.
> > 
> > This isn't a typo, but maybe it needs more than a single line to explain
> > it!
> > 
> > It might be the case that each FreedomBox will need a specially
> > configured tor/torrent client for talking to other FreedomBoxes.  And we
> > might need to confine the traffic to FreedomBox tor nodes.  But it is
> > possible to combine tor and torrent without leaking identity and without
> > burdening the rest of the tor network.  Exploring that possibility is
> > well within the goals of this project.
> Having a special, private and dedicated freedombox tor network isn't that
> easy to deploy, this would require to have special authorities servers,
> as I understand it, which isn't really easy to setup.
> On the other hand, freedombox should probably also provide i2p (as
> opt-in), which has a builtin torrent client and tracker, and is more
> designed to support torrent.

There are lots of paths to our goal: tor, torrent, i2p, oneswarm, etc.
I'm going to broaden that line of the is/is not to say something a
little more general.  I don't think we need to nail down a specific
protocol/network/package right now.  They're all good suggestions for


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