[Freedombox-discuss] Freedombox-discuss Digest, Vol 16, Issue 1
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> 1. Re: Debian GNU/Linux on tablet hardware (Brian Bartholomew)
> 2. Re: Debian GNU/Linux on tablet hardware (J David Eisenberg)
> 3. Re: Debian GNU/Linux on tablet hardware (Robinson Tryon)
> 4. Connecting People (Zot and a link dump) (Nick Daly)
> 5. Re: Debian GNU/Linux on tablet hardware (Weaver)
> 6. Re: Connecting People (Zot and a link dump) (Melvin Carvalho)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:38:54 -0400
> From: Brian Bartholomew <bb at stat.ufl.edu>
> To: freedombox-discuss at lists.alioth.debian.org
> Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Debian GNU/Linux on tablet hardware
> Message-ID: <10955.1320089934 at stat.ufl.edu>
>
> > i'm not asking people for a "committment to buy". i'm asking people
> > if they would be *willing* to commit to buying, if a certain
> > threshold of other people also publicly made the exact same
> > committment.
>
> If the result was a turnkey working Linux system, I would buy one or
> two at $100/each to inspire somebody to initially build them.
>
> I would be especially interested in something that could tolerate a
> Florida outdoor temperature range (100 F in the shade) when placed in
> a watertight sealed box without fan cooling. This is for a wild game
> camera, chicken coop door controller, etc.
>
> Why am I interested in this proposal rather than any of the other
> small machines that already exist? Because (a) I'm also interested in
> freedombox and want to encourage it, and (b) I expect the networking
> features I want will be very similar to freedombox.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:52:03 -0700
> From: J David Eisenberg <jdavid.eisenberg at gmail.com>
> To: Brian Bartholomew <bb at stat.ufl.edu>
> Cc: freedombox-discuss at lists.alioth.debian.org
> Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Debian GNU/Linux on tablet hardware
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> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Brian Bartholomew <bb at stat.ufl.edu>
> wrote:
> >> i'm not asking people for a "committment to buy". ?i'm asking
> >> people if they would be *willing* to commit to buying, if a
> >> certain threshold of other people also publicly made the exact
> >> same committment.
> >
> > If the result was a turnkey working Linux system, I would buy one
> > or two at $100/each to inspire somebody to initially build them.
> >
>
> I'd buy three of them at the price.
>
> > I would be especially interested in something that could tolerate a
> > Florida outdoor temperature range (100 F in the shade) when placed
> > in a watertight sealed box without fan cooling. ?This is for a wild
> > game camera, chicken coop door controller, etc.
> >
> > Why am I interested in this proposal rather than any of the other
> > small machines that already exist? ?Because (a) I'm also interested
> > in freedombox and want to encourage it, and (b) I expect the
> > networking features I want will be very similar to freedombox.
> >
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Brian
> >
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>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:52:32 -0400
> From: Robinson Tryon <bishop.robinson at gmail.com>
> To: Brian Bartholomew <bb at stat.ufl.edu>
> Cc: freedombox-discuss at lists.alioth.debian.org
> Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Debian GNU/Linux on tablet hardware
> Message-ID:
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> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Brian Bartholomew <bb at stat.ufl.edu>
> wrote:
> >> i'm not asking people for a "committment to buy". ?i'm asking
> >> people if they would be *willing* to commit to buying, if a
> >> certain threshold of other people also publicly made the exact
> >> same committment.
> >
> > If the result was a turnkey working Linux system, I would buy one
> > or two at $100/each to inspire somebody to initially build them.
>
> I'm willing to spend at least $100 each year on some hardware from the
> FreedomBox project that will run a useful system for me. And I think
> that you can line up 99 other supporters without hardly any effort.
>
> The key things here are
>
> 1) Hit a sweet price point
>
> Something about $100 means that more people will be willing to buy-in
> to the system. And that sounds like a good "second wind" for the
> project.
>
> 2) Market the system as Free-software friendly
>
> Tout the fact that 100% of the source for the device is available.
>
> 3) Make the system useful
>
> The glorious vision of the FreedomBox isn't here yet. And that's okay.
> All you need to do is get a good enough hardware + software mix that
> people find it *useful*, even if minimally so.
>
> Right now I would pay $100 for a little box that could run three
> useful applications:
> a) SSH
> b) Web server
> c) Mail server
>
>
> If group-buys of hardware can help the FreedomBox project, then I'm
> more than happy to sign on. It also can give people like me a tangible
> item to show off to my friends -- and maybe get them to buy one, or at
> least pay more attention to the project. And that kind of community
> growing is very valuable to the project.
>
> --R
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:17:52 -0500
> From: Nick Daly <nick.m.daly at gmail.com>
> To: freedombox-discuss at lists.alioth.debian.org
> Subject: [Freedombox-discuss] Connecting People (Zot and a link dump)
> Message-ID: <87vcr4v5lb.fsf at debian.home>
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> I've been wondering what a decentralized social network would look
> like for the last couple days, and come up with a few kooky (if
> potentially functional) ideas, like customized and encrypted
> OStatus/Atom feeds (for pull-protocols or broadcasting).
>
> A bit more research, and it looks like a better solution is already in
> process, through Zot:
>
> http://dfrn.org/zot-protocol.txt
>
> Zot depends on Webfinger and Salmon, which seem to allow and encourage
> decentralized, self-published, social networks, particularly when
> coupled with GPG's Web-of-Trust (as provided through Zot). If Zot
> (and consumers like Friendika) can pull this off, they might've given
> us both a protocol and UI for social networking on the FBX.
>
> Thoughts? Where does this fall short on the stated needs and
> use-cases (aside from being a bit incomplete, black kettle and all)?
>
> Nick
>
>
> - ----
>
> WebFinger:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webfinger
> https://code.google.com/p/webfinger/
> http://hueniverse.com/2009/08/introducing-webfinger/
>
> Salmon:
>
> http://www.salmon-protocol.org/
> http://www.salmon-protocol.org/salmon-protocol-summary
>
> Zot-supporting documents:
>
> http://macgirvin.com/profile/mike
> https://groups.google.com/group/zot-dev
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 03:02:00 -0700
> From: "Weaver" <weaver at riseup.net>
> To: Freedombox-discuss at lists.alioth.debian.org
> Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Debian GNU/Linux on tablet hardware
> Message-ID:
> <e9b4a97763d540844601fccc3e0ff0d9.squirrel at fulvetta.riseup.net>
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>
> > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Brian Bartholomew <bb at stat.ufl.edu>
> > wrote:
> >>> i'm not asking people for a "committment to buy". ?i'm asking
> >>> people if they would be *willing* to commit to buying, if a
> >>> certain threshold of other people also publicly made the exact
> >>> same committment.
> >>
> >> If the result was a turnkey working Linux system, I would buy one
> >> or two at $100/each to inspire somebody to initially build them.
> >
> > I'm willing to spend at least $100 each year on some hardware from
> > the FreedomBox project that will run a useful system for me. And I
> > think that you can line up 99 other supporters without hardly any
> > effort.
> >
> > The key things here are
> >
> > 1) Hit a sweet price point
> >
> > Something about $100 means that more people will be willing to
> > buy-in to the system. And that sounds like a good "second wind" for
> > the project.
> >
> > 2) Market the system as Free-software friendly
> >
> > Tout the fact that 100% of the source for the device is available.
> >
> > 3) Make the system useful
>
> I think it might be an idea to see what else is available before
> decision time arrives: http://www.efytimes.com/e1/72350/fullnews.htm
>
> First rule of business: Check out all options;
> Second rule of business: Check out all options thoroughly.
> *Before* you invest.
> Regards,
>
> Weaver.
For €100, plus minus, i would buy a device (asap) ssh and web-server
would be sufficient, mail-server would be good. I guess i could
convince a few others to do the same.
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