[Freedombox-discuss] Connecting People (Zot and a link dump)

[Melvin Carvalho]

On 2 November 2011 04:28, Nick Daly <nick.m.daly at gmail.com> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho at gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I'm listening to the comments right now.  Evan just said:
>>
>> "the big thing we hear from our users is we would like a web that
>> works like The Web, not one that works like an email inbox"
>>
>> This will be soooooo much easier with FBX where everyone has complete
>> control of their box, keys and web server ... I think once we have a
>> few boxes talking set up it's going to be a whole lot clearer.
>
> Precisely.  I'm just trying to weigh what options we have for my
> (admittedly still unclear) ideas of how the system should work.  It'd be
> nice if the (box-to-box, friend-to-friend, encrypted, and customized)
> communication bit was already worked out, and nobody needed to invent
> any wheels.
>
> The big questions are: how do they talk?  How should they talk?  There
> are a couple options out there already, and I'm nearly certain there's
> no one-size-fits all solution, there are lots and lots of use-cases.
>
> I'm also not convinced there's an existing solution that precisely fits
> the project's (or at least my) ideals.  I'm looking for something like
> Webfinger over a DHT based on GPG that provides both routing and
> identity information.  If this sounds interesting to anybody, feel free
> to ping me off list.

Still trying to get the minutes but from what I gathered:

- People are moving away from XML and towards JSON

- OStatus hasnt gained the adoption it would have liked

- Salmon seems particularly hard to implement with everyone seeming to
do it a slightly different way


I've had a brief look at zot, I'm highly skeptical it can gain adoption

- http://purl.org/zot/1.0 did not resolve for me

- Unsure if the OStatus folks will want to run with it

- Unsure if it's using new URI schemes, scaling, IANA acceptance etc.

- Unsure how much it's been peer reviewed.


General thoughts:

- This is a problem that no one has solved yet.

- The wordpress blog you run on your plug server has potential to be
developed into a web based social net, perhaps even possible with
something like drupal

- GNU Social still has potential as a microblogging solution, perhaps more

- Retroshare works well with PGP and IM

- There seem some plans to develop an end to end encrypted XMPP / GPG
thing (dont hold your breath ;) )

- I think the principle of good design are 'low coupling, high
cohesion'.  Meaning as far as possible dont try and be FBX specific.

- Apache 2 with a self signed cert is a very good start.  Build up
incrementally through trial and error.

- I think the correct way to model things by FAR is what facebook have
done with the open graph protocol.  A FOSS version of that with data
freedom, and keep your own logs.

>
> Nick
> - --
> GPG: 0x0928D23A | D95C 3204 2EE5 4FFD B25E  C348 9F27 33F4 0928 D23A
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
>
> iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOsLj4AAoJEJ8nM/QJKNI6zeYQAKhj/mxqTSnybmeOXnWtceCN
> NsoPXsUW5j0kP6/P7jKkalUoZwCrYijXhPRRjVqCz/g12KnM13pIf7RzCkMC6yHq
> GG/uw6OH4tQXEymnngFLTbMNlrLRnFcKGPwhuIgY1CB95DV+wDIKzRVeTc7FMG5e
> IsFXk3nLTSK+G38FrDGyikO6iitpNclf956QN80GMxUWLVcLNEDERT2m2WzB0Syn
> os0V+SUKKPf/bQf3X6ipQFmBsZv1pElzJRsGxz7bsg6Ht+32ZREwfUivughAz6g5
> GTNQeQOvWWGUGVjzhRiR8lEl+PSg/a9owv6g4zM4nEshYClBm1mrkR5geifLGYfZ
> zbvwqVrW100VsPOoM4vc1kP2KSPaE5XGmIarhIGW4/hqlvLiXyL7g/zznklJ6fSX
> LlfWT0/zUSRngZ4cgMflwrtZqC7Qh6ZH8PlbuM8M5eO4nge20R41OOOe4cz5VNaN
> SWHjSSyioGVm+fevKU2gPeZXYQWnJTzoa1K/Fm6n1gqCmSCE6Ct54/tuwmPKISSQ
> SLU71NDyaueVWH6cDStns7rMHgDthhUX6ssnR6iQNw83TYiHK5lTMYCJcUF9J96h
> a02xrSycVDjDo0l6C/3kA/XcafNcWKwJoy6bb/W5DK9hhJNjIPqP40qYV4Vivm5O
> L51As9EZKlGrnBvASxAy
> =3/7i
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>