[Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox at Software Freedom Day

Robin Jakobsson jakobsson.robin at gmail.com
Wed Sep 21 07:36:15 UTC 2011

joined the list a few days ago.

The sources Yves points out are a great starting point, but I fail to
see why we need a separate site for that?
Why not just beef up the foundation site?
I'm a (front end) web developer and I can help with all things
web-related, even information architecture.
So for "Communication and outreach", I'm in.

Two great text resources:
* http://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/TalksAndPresentations/AvailableMaterial
-> PDF from page 15 and on
* https://www.freedomboxfoundation.org/goals/index.en.html


On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Yves L <oremusnix at gmail.com> wrote:
> Le 05/09/2011 14:43, John Walsh a écrit :
> <...>
>>>> I would strongly recomment set up a website which is appropriate to
>>>> the 21th century
>> IMHO, I think the Foundation website looks quite modern.
> <...>
>> However, Jonas's response reminded me how confusing the freedombox message
>> was to me the first time I heard about FreedomBox.
> <...>
>> Off the top of my head, we need to do a better job at selling our message
>> and I have the following suggestions;
>> The FreedomBox is our product and it deserves a domain of it's own rather
>> than be a wiki page of Debian. I am only saying hide that we are using
>> Debian infrastructure. Is that possible?
>> On the FreedomBox domain we could have an About Us page, which would tell
>> the FreedomBox story. In a nutshell, it would say Eben started the project
>> with the aim... Additionally, the About page would explain we are a Debian
>> Blend which is a part of Debian. Finally, the About page would document
>> the
>> Foundation as the custodian of the FreedomBox, linking to Foundations
>> website. I'm in two minds if the About page should mention the role of the
>> TAC or should that remain on the Foundation website?
>> Currently, everything is (accidently) in the name of the foundation rather
>> than the freedombox, which gives the impression that foundation drives the
>> project.
>> I think you get the idea that we need to better sell the box and we
>> probably
>> can't do that until we protect the product name. At the same time, I think
>> we need to de-emphasize the Foundation so that it feels more like our
>> project.
>> One of the great things about this proposal is that the majority of the
>> work
>> (web page text) can be done by non-developers \0/ although we would still
>> need the help of web developers to structure the website. Maybe we could
>> tart up wiki pages, but that would make the site insecure?
> <...>
>> Kind Regards
>> -- fiftyfour
> Hi
> I'm Yves and have been lurking on this list for some months awaiting a time
> when I could make myself useful, not being a developer nor packager.
> I cannot agree more with fiftyfour on the "marketing" aspect that is missing
> for the freedombox project to stir up interest and attract more developers.
> It reminds of what the getfirefox.com page did some time ago to do exactly
> that, while being run by a volunteer (the address  now points to official
> Mozilla)
> While the freedombox foundation website does an adequate job for the like
> minded individuals coming from the open source/privacy world it is a bit dry
> at advocating "the dream" to the average Joe and lacks pedagogy: why is it
> important, why should I care, why is it difficult and so on.
> I  am very much willing to buy a domain name (for instance :
> freedomboxworld.com) and set up an initial website to help get this
> attention. Here are the sources I think we can build upon to flesh up the
> site.
> - Explaining the reason of the freedombox
> - Explaining the technology and hurdles discussed on this mailing list in
> layman's terms (the "Hi five" challenge to use mobile phone to  share GPG
> keys to a trusted friend, the reason current DNS is a problem, how to
> maintain contact with the "oldworld" internet, why email is problematic...)
> - Rebound on news items underlining the need for a freedombox
> - Syndicate news of other or similar project
> - live tweeter, facebook, identica feeds citing the project
> All while pointing to existing resources when already there (the speeches by
> eblen, the wiki, mailing list and so forth.)
> It would help to have someone with strong graphics skills (that I lack) to
> beef up the look and feel (again Mozilla does a superb job at it but with a
> different budget)
> This would make a nice starting point for a "Communication and outreach"
> working group, what do you think ?
> Regards
> Yves
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