[Freedombox-discuss] mesh network [was: FreedomBox Testing 2012.0617 Image Published]

Markus Sabadello markus.sabadello at gmail.com
Mon Jun 18 12:41:39 UTC 2012

Just wanted to comment that a few people here in Vienna have been
trying to hook up the FreedomBox with the local mesh network (FunkFeuer,

When we get something interesting working, we'll let you know..

all the best,
Project Danube: http://projectdanube.org
Personal Data Ecosystem Consortium: http://personaldataecosystem.org/

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Yan Hetges <yan at exalot.com> wrote:

> Hello
> first of all, i'd like to quickly introduce myself. My name is Yan, i
> like freedom and have been using Debian as my main desktop OS since woody
> and been playing with it on servers since the same time. I've also been
> actively deploying a wifi adhoc mesh network with OpenWrt and derivates
> since 2006 (it has ~15 nodes and covers an area of maybe 15 km^2).
> And i've been reading this list since late January...
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:03:49PM -0400, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > Hmmm...  So, the Freedombox needs to use external infrastructure such as
> an ethernet or WiFi router?
> yes, freedombox wants to use the internet
> >
> > I was thinking WiFi would connect all neighbors together on a WiFi mesh
> able to simultaneously transmit / receive to other Freedomboxes directly
> without a hub / router. Sort of an ad hoc Internet.
> it could theoretically connect all neighbours together and NOT
> simultaneously tx/rx because the wifi radio can only either or, not both
> at the same time. And that's the main issue, usable bandwidth gets less
> at each hop.
> >
> > Is such a thing possible with WiFi?
> to a certain degree, and it might never be able to replace an
> infrastructure! Also, to connect neighbours without internet, they want
> to be pretty close to each other... like one in every appartment! That
> will then make so much noise that there might be no communication
> possible over more than 2-4 hops. Please don't understand me wrong, i
> LOVE the idea! Also, to make that work out of the box, without external
> antennas mounted on a roof, or the FBX mounted in a weatherproof box on
> top of a bamboo pole in a tall tree or something like that, is very
> unlikely. I suggest reading RFC 1925 [1] espexially (5),(8) and (10).
> If you really want to integrate a self employing mesh function into
> FBX i'd recommend looking deeply into what R.O.B.I.N. [2] does.
> Also, it would be very much appreciated and make group communication
> much easier if you (some of you) would consider reading and following
> [3] , especially 9. And/or RFC 1855 [4].
> Thank you everyone so much for all your work!
>  cheers
>    --Yan
> [1]http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1925.txt
> [2]http://wiki-robin.meshroot.com/
> [3]http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php
> [4]http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt
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