[Freedombox-discuss] Why plug servers and not smart phones?

Jack Wilborn jkwilborn at gmail.com
Sat Jul 13 13:40:16 UTC 2013

I believe the question was 'why not smart phones' not we can run them in
virtual environments?  I don't get the connection as it doesn't seem
related to me?  Just asking... Don't worry about a reply, if I don't get
it, it's not worth it, I guess...

Since it doesn't address the end product, which I think he was driving at..


On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 6:12 AM, P S <pairspace at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 13, 2013, at 8:35, Jack Wilborn <jkwilborn at gmail.com> wrote:
> Qualcomm is one of the people that will not accept that open source
> doctrine, so yes we have to blame capitalism, which goes back to the
> semiconductor manufacturers who are the one that will not give us the
> inside information on the chips.  Have you ever had a machine that all you
> need to do to make it useful is to get the wifi adapter to work and then
> you find our that it's not supported by any version of Linux, so you have
> to go some other route, but you don't have another route?
> Yes that's what I mean...
> Jack
> While PCs (thanks to IBM PC legacy of relative openness) still exist, they
> can be used with virtualization software to perform multiple functions,
> including running FreedomBox/Debian.
> One can run VMware ESXi (free server) or XCP (open-source Xen server) on
> low-power home servers like Mac Mini or Lenovo M92p Tiny, which use laptop
> chipsets to reduce power consumption.  For a home desktop, you can use
> CentOS with KVM, Debian with XCP or Qubes Xen with a Debian guest VM.
> While this is more expensive than ARM plug servers, it's also more
> versatile, open and performant.  Many people have old laptops which can be
> repurposed.  VMs can later be migrated to newer x86 hardware as needed.
> http://www.virtuallyghetto.com/2012/12/running-esxi-50-51-on-2012-mac-mini-62.html
> http://www.plainlystated.com/2013/04/xcp-xen-on-a-mac-mini/
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