[Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox - "Danube Edition"
Markus Sabadello
markus at projectdanube.org
Wed Oct 22 00:04:37 UTC 2014
On 10/22/2014 01:49 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>
>
> On 22 October 2014 01:29, Markus Sabadello <markus at projectdanube.org
> <mailto:markus at projectdanube.org>> wrote:
>
> Hello list,
>
> So here's the story.. I have an opportunity to build 100
> CubieTrucks with a nice box and a SATA drive and I would like to
> call them FreedomBox - "Danube Edition", and sell them just at the
> price it costs to build them. I can present this at the upcoming
> Elevate festival in Graz and the Internet Identity Workshop in
> Mountain View, I have already demo'd FreedomBox at both events
> (and others) several times in the past.
>
> I'd be interested in feedback on any or all of the following..
>
> 1. Is this a good idea? I made this webpage:
> http://projectdanube.org/freedombox/
> So the message would basically be "you can get one, you can try to
> use it and learn about it, but don't rely on it".
> I noticed you just discussed how FreedomBox was not ready for the
> next Debian stable, but I think some people who don't know the
> command line would still want one.
>
> 2. I would like to help add a few things to the box. Most
> importantly, support for the Unhosted project, we already dreamed
> about this 2 years ago
> <http://blog.projectdanube.org/2012/06/freedombox-unhosted-pagekite-for-access-innovation-prize-2012/>,
> and it works really well. Another idea would be something that
> comes out of the current W3C Social Web work, as well as the
> IndieWeb community.
>
>
> Not sure how much is going to come out of the W3C work, except some
> standardization of AS 2.0, opensocial etc.
>
> You may want to take a look at GOLD. It's a light weight remote
> storage file server with access controlled file access. It runs on a
> raspberry pi so should easily do well on a plug computer. It's come
> out of tim berners-lee's lab at MIT, so as you can expect it's 100%
> standards compliant esp. with linked data platform. The focus is on
> client side (what you call unhosted) apps.
>
> https://github.com/linkeddata/gold
>
> I've been using it lately and the performance is very good, as it's
> written in go. I think it makes an ideal match to freedbombox.
Yes thanks. When I think of FreedomBox+LDP, I always remember the WebBox
<http://people.csail.mit.edu/emax/papers/www2012-webbox.pdf> paper. I
was thinking rww.io would be a good fit, but maybe this is better.
When you say GOLD is a "remote storage file server", do you mean it
actually speaks Michiel's remoteStorage protocol, or do you just mean
client-side/unhosted in general in this case?
> PS I met Michiel (from unhosted) a couple of months ago, I think he's
> working on a new hosting service which may fit to your ideas, tho you
> probably know this already
I know a little bit about it, it's very exciting.
>
>
> 3. I already managed to build a working FreedomBox image for
> CubieTruck, using freedom-maker and a mainline kernel and some
> similar steps as with the recently added Beaglebone support. I'll
> try to submit a pull request soon. This does require a modified
> version of vmdebootstrap, since on CubieTruck the bootloader must
> go into a special space between the partition table and the first
> partition. I think I found some information out there by Neil
> Williams who is aware of this? Basically I think vmdebootstrap
> should have a new parameter that can leave this extra space empty,
> and then freedom-maker can specify that parameter and install the
> bootloader afterwards. For now I summarized what I did to make it
> work here
> <https://github.com/peacekeeper/freedom-maker/wiki/OS-Start>.
>
> 4. I worked on setting up a PageKite service under the domain
> freedombox.me <http://freedombox.me>, and I wrote a Perl script
> that integrates the PageKite server, a DNS server, and a Redis
> database, to dynamically register new DNS names and PageKite
> tunnels given a "voucher code". This is all similar to how
> pagekite.me <http://pagekite.me> works. So I imagine, if you get a
> FreedomBox, you also get one of these "voucher codes" and can
> choose a something.freedombox.me <http://something.freedombox.me>
> subdomain. Michael Pimmer ("fonfon") has been working on a Plinth
> extension that can do this registration during Plinth's first-boot
> phase. I described the whole setup here
> <https://github.com/peacekeeper/freedomkite>.
>
> Thoughts? Maybe we can chat on IRC at some point ("peacekeeper").
>
> Markus
>
>
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