[Freedombox-discuss] Freedombox with Horde?

Craig Barnes cjbarnes18 at member.fsf.org
Sat Mar 12 21:34:52 UTC 2016

Hi All,

On 12/03/16 14:43, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Hi Dieter,
> Quoting Dieter (2016-03-12 15:03:49)
>> The recent troubles (owncloud probably getting removed from debian), i 
>> thought about trying out some different systems.
>> Right now I'm downloading php-horde-webmail on the freedombox.
>> I plan to use the already available ldap-server, as well as the 
>> running Postgresql-Database.
>> Have any of you tried this before?
>> Do you think this is a bad idea?
>> Also, security-wise?
>> Any help and comments would be welcome! :)
> Since you asked: I find it unwise to use PHP at all on FreedomBox (since 
> FreedomBox by definition means there will be no system administrator to 
> monitor and intervene when (not if) yet another weakness in either the 
> PHP engine itself or some code written in that language is abused.
> I find it interesting to explore running Mail on the box - without PHP.  
> A non-PHP web-client available in Debian is Cider Webmail.
> A challenge is how to handle spam fully automated (again: It is a 
> Freedombox so you have to assume no sysadmin is available).
>  - Jonas
I share your concerns with PHP.

Mailpile is certainly an interesting option although still in Alpha...

Has anyone tried citadel on a freedombox, it should be sufficiently


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