[Freedombox-discuss] Freedombox on a free operating system

[Sandy Harris]

On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 8:54 AM Esteban Ordóñez <quiliro at riseup.net> wrote:

> Yes.  That is why Debian has been nonfree.  Debian used to say that it
> was free because its main repository had all free software.  Now Debian
> is in fact nonfree, even by its own definitions.
> ...
> The only thing that is important is that the truth be told.  This double
> talk makes people think that Debian is freedom.  It is not. ...
>
> So it is an important issue for Freedombox.  Deciding to be based on
> Debian without nonfree software would mean not including the nonfree
> firmware.  If the user decided to include it, that would be the user's
> decision.  But that would not involve Freedombox's collaboration to
> subjugate the user.  Telling people that they should opt for freedom
> does very little.  Setting the example is the only way.  Freedombox can
> do this.

Would Devuan be any better? I prefer it because it does not use
systemd, but do not know what it does about firmware.
https://www.devuan.org/

Is this mostly illusory anyway, since most systems come with
non-free firmware & some have other "features" that might
well be security holes?