The only solution I can think of for this is a modular hardware design at the physical level that allows for pluggable communication devices. Then allow individual groups to play with laser links, packet radio, gsm / whatever in software defined radio.<br>
<br>The problem is mesh networking tends to not work well legally outside of 802.xx standards and 2.4 ghz.<br><br>The plugs people have been discussing do not address these fundamental needs. I think that many members of this group are not concerned with this feature set.<br>
<br>-Matt<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Anthony Papillion <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:papillion@gmail.com">papillion@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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On 02/27/2011 03:59 PM, Michiel de Jong wrote:<br>
><br>
> Are there contingency plans being built into the box for this scenario?<br>
> What are the options for handling something like this? Is anyone<br>
> currently working on this area?<br>
><br>
><br>
> yes, search this list and the internet for "wifi mesh". it's more or<br>
> less comprised in goal #3 of <a href="http://freedomboxfoundation.org/goals/" target="_blank">http://freedomboxfoundation.org/goals/</a><br>
><br>
> also village telco and serval project are relevant links.<br>
<br>
</div>Thanks Michael,<br>
<br>
I understand how mesh networking works and can see its value in helping<br>
the Freedom Box route around trouble spots in the network. So I<br>
understand how if, let's say Comcast, decides to shut its users off from<br>
the network, a Freedom Box user could use their connection to<br>
non-censored friends to still reach the Internet. But here is where it<br>
gets a bit tricky for me (and please bear with me as I am still reading<br>
messages and getting up to speed):<br>
<br>
1. Doesn't this depend on being physically close to other Freedom Box<br>
users who are not censored? After all, if you don't have a network<br>
connection, you couldn't reach out to remote Freedom Box users who<br>
weren't witing wi-fi (or possibly wimax range. What happens if the user<br>
is in the middle of nowhere with nobody else using a Freedom Box near them?<br>
<br>
2. In the event of a total nationwide block of the Internet, Freedom Box<br>
users (again, probably only in semi-near proximity to each other) will<br>
still be able to communicate with each other but it would see that the<br>
farthest connectivity could go would be a particular national border. At<br>
that point, near field connectivity becomes impossible. If, at that<br>
point, one could rely on some sort of distance technology (like Sat Com,<br>
microwave, etc, couldn't this fairly easily be disrupted by a<br>
government? How could the Freedom Box address this?<br>
<br>
Again, like I said, forgive me if this is all in the archives (and<br>
please don't hesitate to tell me 'you'll get to it' instead of answering<br>
as I'm going to continue to read the archives) but it seems like these<br>
would be pretty major hurdles to overcome. Of course, as I said, this<br>
might not even be an issue anymore.<br>
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Thanks!<br>
Anthony<br>
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