seems like we keep walking in circles <br><br>how do we allow users to
identify themselves or each other, yet remain anonymous. The process of
identifying a user, determining someone is who they say they are
crosses the threshold and puts the said user at risk of being identified
ect ect. <br>
<br>Yes, all aspects of freedombox should work to support user privacy,
prevent identifying sources ect ect... though we cant keep pretending
that we can identify a user without identifying them. <br>
<br>
The social networking is just one aspect of the freedombox, and some
would argue its not a critical part because we could implement services
that are already developed (Diaspora) and make modifications to enforce
stronger privacy (if needed) and to work on our darknet/mesh ect ect. <br>
<br>
Im not sure why we keep talking about social networking. The guy that
leaks information on a government, on a corporation, who posts
information that a goverment is going to want to take down and arrest
someone for .... these people should not be interested in a default
associative property that is linked to the entire freedombox. The user
should be in charge of setting up a pseudo-anonymous identity on service
xyz. <br>
<br>
now, i know that the freedombox is going to be used by average
individuals that are not interested in remaining anonymous for what ever
reason. But lets not kid ourself, social networking is social
networking... we can increase the privacy, make strong privacy relation
policys, but posting your pictures and life story on a service is not in
any way shape or form ... logical. <br>
<br>
we are not creating a cool new facebook, we are creating an entire new
network that allows users to communication and preform operations on the
net without fear of reprecussion or repression. And most importantly we
are creating ways for users to use the Internet (if you would even call
it that anymore) anonymously and that is not subject to centerlized
services .. kill switches.. dns tdl blocks ect ect. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Jonas Smedegaard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dr@jones.dk">dr@jones.dk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im">On 11-07-08 at 02:50pm, John Walsh wrote:<br>
> At connection time, I should be allowed to opt-in to having my name<br>
> published by a friend - it is my identity after all.<br>
><br>
> I was also reminded about what I consider a major privacy flaw in all<br>
> social networks. When you post to your wall you are posting to friends<br>
> of your friends - you have no control over who sees your message on a<br>
> friends wall.<br>
<br>
</div>[snip]<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> Another wish of mine, would be that for each profile you can define<br>
> your messages/content maximum degree of separation from you.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>I recommend to pass such ideas (preferrably backed by code, obviously)<br>
to the [group] that develops interoperability standards for federated<br>
social networks!<br>
<br>
Last month was a coordination [meeting] in Berlin ([videos] available<br>
for some parts), and a few days ago a [follow-up mail] seems to touch<br>
this very issue (point #3).<br>
<br>
I believe discussing implementation details with the folks actually<br>
implementing is much more productive than doing it here ;-)<br>
<br>
<br>
- Jonas<br>
<br>
[group]: <a href="http://federatedsocialweb.net/" target="_blank">http://federatedsocialweb.net/</a><br>
<br>
[meeting]: <a href="http://d-cent.org/fsw2011/" target="_blank">http://d-cent.org/fsw2011/</a><br>
<br>
[videos]: <a href="http://d-cent.org/fsw2011/videos/" target="_blank">http://d-cent.org/fsw2011/videos/</a><br>
<br>
[follow-up mail]:<br>
<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/ostatus-discuss/browse_thread/thread/7f15df316d6c14d3" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/ostatus-discuss/browse_thread/thread/7f15df316d6c14d3</a><br>
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