i think your just pointing out one of the many already stated issues with centralized services, and how big brother doesnt like to lose control of its censorship and monitoring platform. We already see this happening, countrys blocking sites and services because they conflict with their specific laws ect ect. <br>
<br><br>You could only be held to these standards if they could backtrace a connection or route the data took from point a to point b. IE the need for anonymous data transfers/connections/ect<br><br>We have a big responsibility, and duty to protect the Internet as a vehicle for free speech. No matter the material, nature, or legality. we cant cherry pick what types of services and material we will accept as free speech and block what we find offensive or illegal based on one country's set of laws.<br>
<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Tony Godshall <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:togo@of.net">togo@of.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Sandy Harris <<a href="mailto:sandyinchina@gmail.com">sandyinchina@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Marc Manthey <<a href="mailto:marc@let.de">marc@let.de</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
><br>
>> I have one little concern , here in germany (maybe somewhere else ? ) we<br>
>> have a law called "Störerhaftung"<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/St%C3%B6rerhaftung" target="_blank">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/St%C3%B6rerhaftung</a><br>
>><br>
>> i cant find a proper translation for it ( disturber responsibility ? ) ,<br>
>> but in short it means that the owner of a wifi/ hotspot or whatever its<br>
>> called<br>
>> when you share an ip with others, you are responsible !! , so if someone<br>
>> downloads mp3s, porn, the owner could be be impeached.<br>
>> and it happend several time here in germany. >>>><br>
>> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wardriving" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wardriving</a> !!<br>
> ...<br>
>> IMHO this affects all open wifi networks /mesh like freifunk<br>
>> whatever...........<br>
>><br>
>> i am not sure how we could handle this problem, technicaly.<br>
><br>
> There is some work being done on this issue. See:<br>
> <a href="http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/04/open-wireless-movement" target="_blank">http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/04/open-wireless-movement</a><br>
><br>
> I'd say that whatever EFF and others come up with in that<br>
> area will be something the Box should support, though in<br>
> some places the Box owner might need to disable it.<br>
<br>
</div>Ideally this would happen automatically, like happens with<br>
wifi frequencies...<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Thank you for your time<br>~Nathan<br><a href="mailto:nathan1465@gmail.com" target="_blank">nathan1465@gmail.com</a><br><br>