<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">On Jul 18, 2011, at 4:24 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">"SIP on its own" is a complete fucking bitch, as anyone with any<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">knowledge of SIP knows, due to the utterly stupid requirement that the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">RTP protocol be transmitted over completely random ports as specified<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">by the fucking *initiator* of the incoming SIP call, *not* the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">recipient. this alone _completely_ fucks up SIP for use on the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">internet, and it's what sipwitch tries - but does not yet succeed -<br></blockquote><br><br>Hi luke, i agree<br><br>Lets face the facts , the last guy i remember talking about peer 2 peer teleophony<br>he called it , "open skype" was <a href="http://www.itojun.org/">http://www.itojun.org</a> , God rest his soul.<br><br>Flash know about peer 2 peer<br><a href="http://whydoeseverythingsuck.com/2008/05/adobe-introduces-p2p-flash-player-kills.html">http://whydoeseverythingsuck.com/2008/05/adobe-introduces-p2p-flash-player-kills.html</a><br><a href="http://whydoeseverythingsuck.com/2008/05/flash-10-p2p-and-cdns-deeper-analysis.html">http://whydoeseverythingsuck.com/2008/05/flash-10-p2p-and-cdns-deeper-analysis.html</a><br><br>But i never heard of any "opensouce" peer 2 peer projects . anyone else ?<br><br>thanks and have a great day<br><br>Marc<br><br><div><br></div><div>P.S. What does this bullshit mean ? Once its working and once my posting is rejected ?</div><div>i can understand that a .tk domain, like i used before for my facebook profile gets blocked </div><div>but this is an .org domain and its hosted by myself</div><div><br></div><div><<a href="mailto:freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org">freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org</a>>: host<br> lists.alioth.debian.org[217.196.43.134] said: 550-Blacklisted URL in<br> message. (o p e n cu.org) in [black]. See 550 <a href="http://lookup.uribl.com/">http://lookup.uribl.com</a>. (in<br> reply to end of DATA command)</div><div><br></div><div><div apple-content-edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br></div></span></div></span> </div><br></div></body></html>