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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/22/2014 12:32 PM, Jonas
Smedegaard wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Quoting Markus Sabadello (2014-10-22 02:31:15)
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<pre wrap="">On 10/22/2014 02:06 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Quoting Markus Sabadello (2014-10-22 01:29:15)
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<pre wrap="">So the message would basically be "you can get one, you can try to
use it and learn about it, but don't rely on it".
I noticed you just discussed how FreedomBox was not ready for the
next Debian stable, but I think some people who don't know the
command line would still want one.
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You think some people who don't know the command line would want to
buy hardware to learn about it but not rely on it?
I think some people buy it but ignore the "but not rely on it" part -
because after playing with it (i.e. clicked on the web interface -
they don't know the command line) they conclude that if feels
reliable enough despite the warnings.
I think it is a bad idea to sell something that is not yet ready, to
someone who don't understand what that means: We are all so very used
to reading and ignoring disclaimers.
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Thanks Jonas, I had the same thoughts and am also worried about the same
things.
Following your argument, I believe people outside the command line /
hacker / developer communities could never use any security or privacy
related tools, because they will never be 100% ready.
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How do you measure "percentage of ready"?!?
Debian "release when reasy" and have a track record of reaching that
point multiple times. But perhaps your "Danube Edition" has different
concept of "reeady" than Debian?</pre>
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I'm sorry, I didn't mean it that way, you are right of course, and
probably I said it wrong.<br>
Of course it's not "ready" by Debian standards, and not "ready" for
use by a general public.<br>
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But considering that there have already been releases, and people
have paid money for its development on Kickstarter, it is "ready"
for trial use by an educated audience, no?<br>
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This is all I meant,<br>
1. just provide a simple service to send a few packaged boxes to an
interested audience<br>
2. try to add a few new functions to the project, such as Unhosted,
LDP, ..<br>
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Really such a bad idea..?<br>
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- Jonas
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