[Fsf-Debian] Who gets to say what the definition of “Debian” is?

Bryan Baldwin bryan at katofiad.co.nz
Sun Aug 5 02:24:50 UTC 2012

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On 08/05/2012 12:27 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> Sometimes the name “Debian” is used colloquially to refer to the 
> Debian project, and the name “GNU” is used colloquially to refer
> to the GNU project. I think we agree that those uses, while they
> are usually clear enough, do frequently cause unfortunate confusion
> such as exhibited in this thread.

While that is the case, GNU cannot in any way be associated with
anything nonfree anymore then the FSF can be.

> Bryan Quigley <gquigs at gmail.com> writes:
>> I agree. The confusion is however enough for the FSF to not 
>> consider the Debian distribution free.
> Yes. Hopefully we all can continue to work on resolving that here
> in this forum.

There is no confusion here. The difference between Debian and the
Debian Project is completely immaterial to either being considered
freedom respecting.

Debian "the system", allegedly 100% free, was not suddenly discovered
to our shock and amazement to share the name Debian with another
completely autonomous developement movement who just so happened to be
engaged in making nonfree software packages, hosted on the same
servers, in the same filesystem tree, that work remarkably well with
the package management of its unrelated free software counterpart. So
then you say, that over there, that's not part of us. We love freedom.
Its they who are ruining it for everyone.

Its not worthy of the attention of a thinking person.
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