[Nut-upsdev] upsmon and Chloride UPS

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at mittelstaedt.us
Fri May 29 04:59:28 UTC 2015


Chloride Power doesn't exist as a company anymore, Emerson bought them
in 2010.

That particular Chloride UPS in the database was replaced with the
Liebert line of desktop UPSes after that acquisition.  Chloride Power 
was dabbling in the desktop market and after the acquisition Emerson
shut all that down because they already were selling desktop UPSes
under the Liebert name, due to their acquiring Liebert back in '87 after 
Liebert's founder died of old age.

Emerson kept the Chloride Power brand for large scale UPSes since
CP was well known in Europe.  Liebert is the brand used for desktop 
UPSes.  The 2 UPS lines have absolutely nothing at all in common.

The Net 120 he has is a big-assed 120Kw UPS for a datacenter.  From
the marketing slick, here:

http://www.emersonnetworkpower.com/en-EMEA/Products/ACPower/Documents/Chloride-80-NET/MKA4L0UK80XL.pdf

"...The UPS offers the following
standard communication
features:
Voltage-free contact ports
Digital inputs and outputs
Two serial ports and LAN
connection
Two internal slots for LIFE and
connectivity options.
Hardware Connectivity
ManageUPS NET ensures the
monitoring and control of the
networked UPS, through the
TCP/IP protocol.
Two different options permit:
The integration of Chloride
UPS with Building Monitoring
and Automation Systems via
MODBUS RTU, MODBUS/TCP
or JBUS protocols
The monitoring of
environmental conditions where
the UPS systems are installed

Essentially, what is going on here (in my guesstimate) is that Zena
found these 2 120 Kw UPSes for real cheap, bought them, got them all
in and running and was all happy - then contacted Emerson and started
pooping bricks at the prices when Emerson told them "you will have to
buy a service contract from us for the software for that UPS plus bend
over for the licensing for the software - and by the way where the 
heck's your generator and $500-a-pop managed PDUs"

Essentially this isn't a device your supposed to use in a datacenter 
with no generator.  Your supposed to have an Emerson transfer switch, a 
generator, and this UPS all connected with their Trellis Site Manager 
software and it will keep your datacenter running for you, with plenty 
of blinking lights as long as you fork over the moola for them to come 
in and massage the system every month for you and slap your hand if you
try touching anything.

You ought to look at the marketing slick on this one the front panel has
enough indicators, buttons, and blinky lights to fly a spaceship much
less a UPS.

Anyway, very likely if the unit he has has a network port on it
there's a MIB somewhere buried on the Emerson site that he can use
if he can glad-hand the Emerson support people into giving it to him. 
If he can figure out the front panel then I'd say, pick a day when you 
can shut everything off and have at it with snmpwalk, you probably will
figure it out.

Failing that, he can plug the dry contacts into a PeeCee port and use
a dumb-UPS driver with NUT.

Ted

On 5/28/2015 7:06 PM, Charles Lepple wrote:
> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Zena Bingani<rogerndo at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We have 2 UPS Chloride 80 NET 120 ( a black and white one )  in our
>> datacenter.
>>
>> Could you please tell me if it is possible to use upsmon or other free
>> solution with these two UPS for shuting down servers during electrical lost
>> power before battery crash
>
> Unclear. There is only one entry for Chloride in our compatibility list:
>
> http://www.networkupstools.org/stable-hcl.html?manufacturer=Chloride
>
> Do you know the name of the protocol that it uses, or the name of the
> Windows monitoring software the manufacturer recommends?
>




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