[Nut-upsuser] This guy must be an idiot

[Leslie Rhorer]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nut-upsuser-bounces+lrhorer=satx.rr.com at lists.alioth.debian.org
> [mailto:nut-upsuser-bounces+lrhorer=satx.rr.com at lists.alioth.debian.org]
> On Behalf Of Manuel Wolfshant
> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:23 AM
> To: 'NUT List'
> Subject: Re: [Nut-upsuser] This guy must be an idiot
> 
> On 05/30/2009 06:09 AM, Leslie Rhorer wrote:
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Charles Lepple [mailto:clepple at gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 9:59 PM
> >> To: lrhorer at satx.rr.com
> >> Cc: NUT List
> >> Subject: Re: [Nut-upsuser] This guy must be an idiot
> >>
> >> What do the /etc/default/nut files look like on both systems?
> >>
> >
> > Yah, hello!  I think you've found it.  START_UPSD and START_UPSMON are
> both
> > set to "no" on the faulty machine.  For the life of me I cannot remember
> > ever editing this file on the working machine, though, so unless my
> memory
> > is just totally shot (a distinct possibility!), how is it the faulty
> machine
> > has these set to "no", and why would the distro do that in the first
> place?
> >
> I have no idea about the debian policy, but in fedora the default for
> all but "very mandatory" services is to install them in the "do not
> start by default"  mode. Thus an admin MUST verify the config [, tune as
> needed if needed] and modify the service to turn it on by default.
> Speaking about nut, since an admin must select at least the driver and
> connection mode to be used, the approach of not starting by default
> looks valid to me.

Well, I would argue that for any even remotely important system, a UPS and
its management utility would be "very mandatory".  What's more, while
perhaps valid for user utilities, the thought process seems rather backwards
for any system service.  I suppose in the best of worlds, the package
maintainer would simply set the package to ask the installer if the service
should start automatically, as is the case with some packages I have
installed.  It could also ask the name of the driver and connection mode.