[Nut-upsuser] [Nut-upsdev] NUT Driver for Voltronic UPS Apex800

[Jim Klimov]

I agree this is a very weird situation now... there is effectively a bounty
with a prize, to "just improve" an already existing driver with vendor
docs/specs and other cooperation, and nobody steps up for a month :\

Possibly, people experienced with Qx drivers are all not online lately for
whatever reasons, or too preoccupied to even reply; are there any others
willing to try and too shy to speak up? (Speaking for myself, I am mostly
coordinating high-level NUT integration and CI, and did not delve into many
of the protocols, and lately am too overwhelmed with work and life to
commit to any timed arrangements).

I CC'ed the nut-upsuser list to maybe reach some more NUT-aware audience
ready to try; otherwise some service like bountysource can be a way to find
talent...

Jim

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, 17:52 Pavel <pp at enfall.com> wrote:

> Hello Jim,
>
>
>
> Our company is ready to make the payment for implementation of our
> request.
>
> Could you please advise experienced person(s) who will able to make this
> hardware for our UPS?
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> _______________________________________
>
> Best regards
>
> Pavel Popov
>
> company Enfall
>
> office: +7 499 322 88 23 (ext.102)
>
> mobile: +7 926 880 50 81 (Viber, WhatsApp, Wechat)
>
> e-mail: pp at enfall.com
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> *От:* Jim Klimov [mailto:jimklimov at gmail.com]
> *Отправлено:* 26 января 2022 г. 18:34
> *Кому:* Alexander
> *Копия:* Roger Price; Zolotukhin Vsevolod; Arnaud Quette; Pavel
> *Тема:* Re: [Nut-upsdev] NUT Driver for Voltronic UPS Apex800
>
>
>
> Matches our experience :(
>
>
>
> I am currently away from a computer so can't easily dig in NUT commit
> history, but probably any non-cosmetic contributors to drivers and
> subdrivers of megatec-compatible devices (Qx) can have the expertise
> needed, and some did not work for competing vendors.
>
>
>
> Maybe it is time to train (and ideally support later on) a new expert for
> the benefit of overall community...
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, 13:50 Alexander <ak at enfall.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> We emailed Daniele Pezzini at <hyouko at gmail.com> found in authorship
> metadata in NUT git repo. But a week later, we still didn't get a response
> from him.
>
> We also tried to find other developers in the Mailing lists on
> networkupstools.org, but we couldn't find anyone other than Daniele
> Pezzini.
> Perhaps you know other developers who were involved in the Voltronic UPS?
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Alexander Kirillov
>
> company Enfall
>
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> e-mail: ak at enfall.com
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> *From:* Jim Klimov [mailto:jimklimov at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 5:11 PM
> *To:* Pavel <pp at enfall.com>
> *Cc:* Roger Price <roger at rogerprice.org>; Zolotukhin Vsevolod <
> vz at enfall.com>; Arnaud Quette <arnaud.quette at gmail.com>; Alexander <
> ak at enfall.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Nut-upsdev] NUT Driver for Voltronic UPS Apex800
>
>
>
> The e-mail should be in commit authorship metadata in NUT git repo.
> Problem is, Daniele did not respond to PR/issue comments, mails, etc. for a
> long time and I have no info beyond that.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
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> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 15:03 Pavel <pp at enfall.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Jim,
>
>
>
> May you please share contacts of Daniele Pezzini?
>
>
>
> _______________________________________
>
> Best regards
>
> Pavel Popov
>
> company Enfall
>
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>
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> *От:* Jim Klimov [mailto:jimklimov at gmail.com]
> *Отправлено:* 18 января 2022 г. 14:32
> *Кому:* Alexander
> *Копия:* Roger Price; Pavel; Zolotukhin Vsevolod; Arnaud Quette
> *Тема:* Re: [Nut-upsdev] NUT Driver for Voltronic UPS Apex800
>
>
>
> Looking at Git logs, it seems that earlier standalone
> voltronic_usb/voltronic_ser drivers, and later nutdrv_qx covering many
> related devices and "Qx" protocol variants, were primarily developed by
> Daniele Pezzini who was not active for the past year or so.
>
>
>
> "General understanding" of what needs to be done, if you had e.g. a local
> developer to start with this "from scratch", is to fork
> https://github.com/networkupstools/nut , check out your fork and make a
> new branch from "master" locally, review docs/ directory (design docs and
> specifics for new-drivers.txt and nutdev_qx-subdrivers.txt), and extend its
> existing voltronic subdrivers (there are at least 3 files for it; IIRC
> covering commons, a text and a binary protocol). And post a PR back on
> github :)
>
>
>
> The config-prereqs.txt covers the list of dependencies for several OS
> platforms used by the CI farm. Also check docs for the "explore" mode as
> the keyword, maybe it would lead to ways for mapping data points reported
> by the device (not sure it is done for Qx, but there are automations to
> bootstrap new USB HID and SNMP subdrivers for example).
>
>
>
> Other subdrivers (and older standalone Qx drivers heading to depreciation)
> can be good inspiration as maybe they handle similar support already, and
> also the recent PRs that added Qx subdrivers like #1135 to see the typical
> change scope involved (recipes, docs, etc).
>
>
>
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 11:55 Alexander <ak at enfall.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Jim and Roger,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> We are waiting for any of the developers to be interested in this issue,
> but so far the answer has come only from you.
>
> Jim,
> you called our issue a "quest" :), so you have some understanding of what
> is needed to ensure the compatibility of Voltronic Apex800 with the
>
> NUT?
> Perhaps you can tell us the contacts of the developers who could help us
> or send them our request?
> Do you know a specific developer who was involved in the Voltronic UPS?
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Alexander Kirillov
>
> company Enfall
>
> mobile: +7 904 333 38 86 (WhatsApp, Telegram)
>
> e-mail: ak at enfall.com
>
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> *From:* Jim Klimov [mailto:jimklimov at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 10:48 AM
> *To:* Roger Price <roger at rogerprice.org>
> *Cc:* Alexander <ak at enfall.com>; nut-upsdev Nut Developer Mailing List <
> nut-upsdev at lists.alioth.debian.org>; Pavel <pp at enfall.com>; Zolotukhin
> Vsevolod <vz at enfall.com>; Arnaud Quette <arnaud.quette at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Nut-upsdev] NUT Driver for Voltronic UPS Apex800
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>
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> Still, I'd hope some developers with time and skill would be eager to pick
> up this quest (and tell us) :)
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022, 12:04 Roger Price <roger at rogerprice.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2022, Alexander wrote:
>
> > I have not received a response since December 30, so I duplicate the
> original
> > message. Please confirm that you have received this email.
>
> Hello Alexander, Yes, we have received your messages as you can see in the
> archives at https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/nut-upsdev/
>
> > I represent Enfall LLC, our company profile is niche systems integrator
> for
> > the supply of power equipment, including UPS.
> >
> > The manufacturer Voltronic has an Apex800 UPS model. To supply this UPS
> to the
> > customer, we should first ensure the compatibility of this UPS model
> with the
> > NUT monitoring system.
> ...
> > 1. Please clarify whether it is technically possible to modify the
> existing
> > Voltronic driver for the Apex800 UPS and provide the ability to transfer
> all
> > data from the UPS to NUT in accordance with the list above?
> >
> > 2. In what time frame is it possible to modify the driver?
> >
> > 3. How much does it cost to upgrade the driver?
> >
> > 4. What information and materials do you need to improve the driver for
> the
> > Apex800, besides the protocol from Voltronic? We are ready to provide
> and
> > receive everything needed from the manufacturer.
>
> There may be a misunderstanding here. The NUT project is a community of
> volunteers who work on the project's software.  The community answers
> questions and offers support in its mailing lists but does not in itself
> do paid consultancy.  Individual members of the project may also be
> consultants but that is outside the project itself.
>
> Best regards, Roger Price
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