[Nut-upsuser] UPS configuration issue?

[gene heskett]

On 5/14/25 07:16, Jim Klimov wrote:
> [..]
>> And nut is not running, fails to start since bookworm.  And I have NDI
> why.
>
> This is probably "Jim's output" you meant - but without logs it really is
> hard to say. There might be bugs of packaging, or of NUT, or some
> mis-configuration...
I did find this download page and pulled it earlier today, but haven't 
unpacked it yet as I want to be fresher when I do.
> Hopefully
> https://github.com/networkupstools/nut/wiki/Changing-NUT-daemon-debug-verbosity
> can get you started about the new ways of debug log collection with systemd
> involved (and NUT 2.8.x abilities about configuring or even
> "command"'ingthe debug level instead of fiddling with command lines in
> init-scripts), but I think that would certainly warrant starting a new
> thread on the list :)
>
> Hope this helps,
> Jim Klimov
Thank you Jim.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 4:20 AM gene heskett via Nut-upsuser <
> nut-upsuser at alioth-lists.debian.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/13/25 21:05, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>>> gene heskett via Nut-upsuser writes:
>>>
>>>> However debians legendary slowness to update things does test my
>>>> patience at times. The fact that bookworms default nut is 2.8.0 is an
>>>> example.
>>> That sounds familiar. Debian's been shipping very old versions of my
>>> packages, which was …irritating. I am not being accusatory, I
>>> understand that it's all volunteer work, and most of the time …there
>>> was no volunteer. But it was still a problem for me.
>>>
>>> I solved this problem by boning up, learning how to create deb
>>> packages, then including a script in my tarballs that create deb
>>> packages from their own tarballs – very similar to how including a
>>> package.spec in the tarball allows rpmbuild to build installable rpms
>>> directly from the tarball: "rpmbuild -ta package-version.tar.bz2", sit
>>> back, and wait for the binary rpms to be created.
>>>
>>> As far as I know debuild doesn't have anything comparable to this, but
>>> what I hacked up came pretty close. The report from the field was that
>>> non-developers are able to use it. And this solved the "old packages
>>> in Debian" issue and made it go away, for the most part. I only made
>>> sure that what I did was not going to interfere with anything a real,
>>> honest to goodness, Debian or Ubuntu maintainer needs to do, so when
>>> one shows up, occasionally, from time to time, it stays out of their way.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately this is not something that works generically, the script
>>> is tailored specifically to the tarball's contents. But that's the
>>> general solution to addressing old stuff in Debian or Ubuntu.
>> Well i have been in the past, able to build from the tarballs but will
>> readily admit that at 90 yo, its getting less and less appetizing.
>> However when 2.8.3 is out, I might give it a shot if I can actually get
>> Jim's output.  Or possibly switch distro's. Debian has about worn me
>> out. I have a time wasting bug that no one on this ball of rock & water
>> can duplicate.
>>
>> Thanks Sam V.
>>
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Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis