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<p class="MsoPlainText">Dear Jonas, All<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Thanks for the interesting lunch. <br>
I typed out the ideas that came around on the wiki platform created by Jonas. I hope I pushed the right buttons. If not, herewith a transcript of the text that I intended to upload .
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Your comments, additions, recommendations and insights are most welcome.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Best<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Jacques <o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="EN"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN"><a href="https://wiki.debian.org/DebianParl">DebianParl</a><o:p></o:p></span></h1>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN"><a href="https://wiki.debian.org/DebianParl/EC?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=linkto%3A%22DebianParl%2FEC%22" title="Click to do a full-text search for this title">EC</a><o:p></o:p></span></h1>
<h1 id="DebianParl_used_by_the_European_Commission"><span lang="EN">DebianParl used by the European Commission<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
<h2 id="Debian_.2F_Open_Source_Software_in_the_European_Commission"><span lang="EN">Debian / Open Source Software in the European Commission<o:p></o:p></span></h2>
<h4 id="Introduction"><span lang="EN">Introduction<o:p></o:p></span></h4>
<p class="line874"><span lang="EN">By means of SMT Reference (Ticket) Nr IM0012717721 I received the following request: IM0012717721 Dear user, We are working on your help request IM0012717721. Can you please provide the following information to progress your
request. Requested information : <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span lang="EN">Dear Jacques, Refering to our discussion over the phone, please get back to us with an email in which you sum all your thoughts up. We will then forward it to the appropriate team.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span lang="EN">best regards, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span lang="EN">[name] <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span lang="EN">Thank you for your cooperation. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<h4 id="purpose_of_this_document"><span lang="EN">purpose of this document<o:p></o:p></span></h4>
<p class="line874"><span lang="EN">By means of this document, I am submitting my thoughts about the use of Debian, or other Open Source/ Free Software by the European Commission so as to meet operational and bussiness needs but without drawbacks that closed-source
software represents, and to prevent therewith potential political fall-out, support a public image of responsible spending of public money, and support user needs.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<h4 id="introduction"><span lang="EN">introduction<o:p></o:p></span></h4>
<p class="line874"><span lang="EN">I am a user of the Commission IT systems with an interest in security, sustainability and transparency. This interest was educated by my previous professional activities. I was, for instance, the administrator for the project
for the design, contracts, building and deployment of large scale police and justice IT systems (Schengen Information System, SIRENE support system, the Visa Information System, and a connection between national Automated Fingerprint Information Systems),
for the drafting and negotiation of the counter-terrorism strategy, as well as for the management of the Data Retention and Data Protection Directives.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<h4 id="core_needs"><span lang="EN">core needs<o:p></o:p></span></h4>
<p class="line874"><span lang="EN">The point in case is to provide users of the Commission IT System a secure and reliable environment for their daily work, that is under-friendly and gives reasonable guarantees that the texts and documents sent arrive unaltered
at the intended addressees only, and that the documents received are identical to the documents sent by the sender.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span lang="EN">Security and reliability guarantees can be given only if the system is fully auditable, which is the case if the source code is known. This is the case for open source software, but not for vendor-provided software. Examples
abound of state- and commercial intrusion in personal and non-public data, which can interfere with the need for a secure working environment and the interests of the Commission and the EU.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<h4 id="basic_concepts"><span lang="EN">basic concepts<o:p></o:p></span></h4>
<p class="line874"><span lang="EN">In my previous activities the investment made in data security was important not only to ensure the legality of criminal investigations and the constitutional rights of second and third parties, but also in the interest of
the management of organisations concerned (responsibility, business continuity, liability, success, financial or reputational damage) and of system users. The question that thus came to my mind was whether it would be possible to run open source software on
Commission IT platforms instead of vendor-provided software. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<h4 id="a_case_for_open_source_and_free_software"><span lang="EN">a case for open source and free software<o:p></o:p></span></h4>
<p class="line874"><span lang="EN">I came into contact with a Debian user group in the European Parliament that has similar concerns. It has successfully launched a Debian pilot that provides the guarantees that I mentioned before and that demonstrates that
all software needs can be successfully addressed through open source software. <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span lang="EN">The issue is thus whether a similar approach is possible in the EC, under what conditions and timeframe. It is reassuring that the Commission has already experience with the use of open source and Debian, f.i. for websites
developed for Commissioners/Cabinets and …. If could be possible to expand on the basis of that experience.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span lang="EN">The use of open or free software has moreover an ethical component that is important for an organisation like the European Commission that operates with tax payers’ money. The need (and possibility) to demonstrate responsible
management and use of public funds is an asset that can provide goodwill and additional benefits.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span lang="EN">A substantial number of national governments and international organisations [source] has or is looking for those reasons into the possibility to use open source and free software.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span lang="EN">At the level of capital and operational expenditure, the use of open/free software that does not have to be written off and can be further developed, shared and re-used is a way to pay investment forward to society. The use
of public procurement is used to promote this trend and to wane public authorities of vendor lock-in that otherwise can keep the organisations tied to exclusive provider contracts with the attached security risks and costs.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span lang="EN">Debian is free open source software that allows running centralised or autonomous (stand-alone) applications in a secure, transparent and independent manner can end the vendor lock-in conundrum in a way that closed-software
applications never can offer. The applications that run on and with Debian can qualify for a TLS or PPP certificate (depending on the user-cultural context) to demonstrate their reliability and security.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<h4 id="conclusion_and_recommendation"><span lang="EN">conclusion and recommendation<o:p></o:p></span></h4>
<p class="line874"><span lang="EN">Having regard to what precedes, I am of the opinion that it would be beneficial that the EC would consider a more general use of OS and FS to cover business/operational needs. Interaction with the Debian User group in the
EP could help exploration of opportunities and challenges. Since risks inherent to the use of closed-software remain as long as this software is used, a strategy of containment in relation to a phasing out should be guided by a risk/threat analysis ….
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Jonas Smedegaard [mailto:dr@jones.dk] <br>
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 6:10 PM<br>
To: VERRAES Jacques (RTD)<br>
Cc: parl-user@lists.alioth.debian.org<br>
Subject: Re: [Parl-user] Hangout at Karsmakers Thursday 29th</span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Quoting <a href="mailto:Jacques.Verraes@ec.europa.eu"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Jacques.Verraes@ec.europa.eu</span></a> (2014-05-28 15:15:23)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Thank u all for attending the lunch pledge: the expected pleasure
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> materialised. Now that we agree on what we want, we want to agree on
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> the text to forward 2 DG Digit. With the help of Jonas we will wiki it
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> together.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">I created a page here: <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/DebianParl/EC">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://wiki.debian.org/DebianParl/EC</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">At the top of the page, register yourself.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">When done, go back to same web page again, and choose "edit".<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">To see how to style the page (headlines, bold, links etc.) you can see
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">how <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/DebianParl/GreensEFA">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://wiki.debian.org/DebianParl/GreensEFA</span></a> looks in raw edit form
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="DA">at </span><a href="https://wiki.debian.org/DebianParl/GreensEFA?action=raw"><span lang="DA" style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://wiki.debian.org/DebianParl/GreensEFA?action=raw</span></a><span lang="DA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="DA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">If this was a too short and confusing guide, just tell me where you got
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">lost, and I'll try from there in a slower pace.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">This is really great!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">- Jonas<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">-- <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">* Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: <a href="http://dr.jones.dk/">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://dr.jones.dk/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">[x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private<o:p></o:p></p>
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