[Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#552203: linux-headers-2.6.30-2-amd64: alsa-source does not compile against debian patched kernel headers
riesebie at lxtec.de
Sat Oct 24 20:12:48 UTC 2009
* Ben Hutchings [091024 20:15 +0100]
> On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 20:38 +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> > There is no trouble to be saved. We are providing the newest alsa
> > driver sources so that they can be build with whatever 2.6 kernel
> > you want.
> Well that's nice for people who are using Debian stable, but doesn't
> answer why this belongs in Debian testing/unstable.
Well, 2.6.30 provides alsa 1.0.20. The Debian alsa-source package
1.0.21 provides many improvments, optimizations and new drivers.
> > This is the intention of the alsa developers as well. So
> > FMPOV the Debian kernel maintainers have to cooperate with that idea
> > too.
> No, we don't. Upgrading drivers outside the kernel image package is a
> really bad idea because:
> 1. Most users never install those driver packages, so they don't get the
Many users want the actual drivers of alsa. The hardware development
is much faster than the Debian kernel maintainers can follow up. So
you need our support ;-)
> 2. The driver package can fall behind the kernel package, but will still
> be used in preference to the version in the kernel package
alsa-source is most newer than the Debian kernel provides.
> 3. Users can report bugs against the kernel and it won't be obvious that
> they're using a different version of the driver
The Debian Kernel is used to be stable. This is what stable means by
its word and not what users want.
> 4. Duplicated code makes the security team unhappy
There is no code duplicated. The alsa-source is meant to be the same
as provided with vanilla.
> If there are specific new drivers, bug fixes or device id updates that
> should be added to a stable release, please let us know and we can
> update the kernel package.
Hmm, patch as patch can? This is not the way Linux is alive from.
> > > Also, please get rid of linux-sound-base because OSS is dead.
> > You are a only forward looking hacker. We want to provide this to
> > older versions too.
> > Please have a look at the Debian kernel patches for the reaseon why
> > alsa-source package doesn't build against the Debian kernels but to
> > the stock ones. Try talking to your co-maintainers ;-)
> We talk on a regular basis and no-one seems to think this is a bug in
> the kernel header packages. The alsa-source build system is doing
> something strange and wrong.
So you must be able to point out why Debians alsa-source builds
against stock kernels and not against Debian ones, please.
Thanks for cooperation
It's a good thing we don't get all
the government we pay for.
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