pkg-boinc-devel Digest, Vol 50, Issue 1

Skip Guenter sguenter at austin.rr.com
Sat Aug 1 17:13:58 UTC 2009 

BTW... I think libglut3 is depreciated and replaced by freeglut3 which
solves the Leiden problem upon install.  


On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 12:01 +0000,
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>    1. Bug#537932: boinc-client should maybe recommend libglut as
>       some WUs	will fail without it (salonh at t2.technion.ac.il)
>    2. Bug#537932: boinc-client should maybe recommend libglut as
>       some	WUs	will fail without it (Steffen Moeller)
>    3. Bug#537932: boinc-client should maybe recommend libglut as
>       some WUs	will fail without it (salonh at t2.technion.ac.il)
>    4. [Bug 311107] Re: Please merge boinc 6.4.5-1 (universe) from
>       Debian	experimental (main) (Launchpad Bug Tracker)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:22:19 +0300
> From: salonh at t2.technion.ac.il
> Subject: Bug#537932: boinc-client should maybe recommend libglut as
> 	some WUs	will fail without it
> To: Steffen Moeller <steffen_moeller at gmx.de>
> Cc: 537932 at bugs.debian.org
> Message-ID: <1249053739.4a730c2bd543f at webmail.technion.ac.il>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Quoting Steffen Moeller <steffen_moeller at gmx.de>:
> 
> > Hi Alon,
> > 
> > Alon Horn wrote:
> > > i got this error on all spinhenge at home and leiden classical WU's:
> > >
> > > <core_client_version>6.4.5</core_client_version>
> > > <![CDATA[
> > > <message>
> > > process exited with code 127 (0x7f, -129)
> > > </message>
> > > <stderr_txt>
> > > metropolis_3.12_i686-pc-linux-gnu: error while loading shared libraries:
> > libglut.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> > >
> > > </stderr_txt>
> > > ]]>
> > >
> > > manually installing libglut3 fixed the problem.
> > > problem did not show in CPDN & WCG WUs. did not test other projects.
> > >   
> > from my perspective the spinhenge folks should have statically linked
> > their application against libglut3. One can barely predict what future
> > libraries or version of some rarel library some application might depend
> > upon. If there is no writing by the BOINC developers that glut should be
> > available, then we should not change a thing. Does the regular BOINC
> > distribution come with libglut? My suggestion would be, and may I
> > possibly ask you to go ahead with this, to post about your experiences
> > on the spinhenge forum and collect opinions on their front?
> > 
> > Have many thanks for your report!! If the outcome of the now happening
> > discussion is that the boinc-client would install Debian packages on
> > demand or so, then I would kind of like that ... all possible technical
> > difficulties aside.
> > 
> > Steffen
> > 
> 
> hi,
> after some testing with other projects it appears to be a problem only with
> these 2 projects, who just happened to be 2 of 4 on my list...
> i've taken the matter to their forums. as you said it seems like something that
> they should solve locally.
> sorry for this... just me jumping to conclusions based on too little info.
> 
> regards,
> alon
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:09:19 +0200
> From: Steffen Moeller <moeller at inb.uni-luebeck.de>
> Subject: Bug#537932: boinc-client should maybe recommend libglut as
> 	some	WUs	will fail without it
> To: salonh at t2.technion.ac.il, 537932 at bugs.debian.org
> Cc: Steffen Moeller <steffen_moeller at gmx.de>
> Message-ID: <4A73172F.7080105 at inb.uni-luebeck.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Hello,
> 
> salonh at t2.technion.ac.il wrote:
> > Quoting Steffen Moeller <steffen_moeller at gmx.de>:
> >
> > Alon Horn wrote:
> >   
> >>> i got this error on all spinhenge at home and leiden classical WU's:
> >>>
> >>> <core_client_version>6.4.5</core_client_version>
> >>> <![CDATA[
> >>> <message>
> >>> process exited with code 127 (0x7f, -129)
> >>> </message>
> >>> <stderr_txt>
> >>> metropolis_3.12_i686-pc-linux-gnu: error while loading shared libraries:
> >>>       
> >> libglut.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >>     
> >>> </stderr_txt>
> >>> ]]>
> >>>
> >>> manually installing libglut3 fixed the problem.
> >>> problem did not show in CPDN & WCG WUs. did not test other projects.
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> from my perspective the spinhenge folks should have statically linked
> >> their application against libglut3. One can barely predict what future
> >> libraries or version of some rarel library some application might depend
> >> upon. If there is no writing by the BOINC developers that glut should be
> >> available, then we should not change a thing. Does the regular BOINC
> >> distribution come with libglut? My suggestion would be, and may I
> >> possibly ask you to go ahead with this, to post about your experiences
> >> on the spinhenge forum and collect opinions on their front?
> >>
> >> Have many thanks for your report!! If the outcome of the now happening
> >> discussion is that the boinc-client would install Debian packages on
> >> demand or so, then I would kind of like that ... all possible technical
> >> difficulties aside.
> >>     
> > after some testing with other projects it appears to be a problem only with
> > these 2 projects, who just happened to be 2 of 4 on my list...
> > i've taken the matter to their forums. as you said it seems like something that
> > they should solve locally.
> > sorry for this... just me jumping to conclusions based on too little info.
> >   
> have many thanks for chasing the issue up, Alon. Somehow I feel that the
> situation is not completely clear, yet. I googled against "BOINC glut"
> and came up with several sites that explain that the BOINC graphics are
> to be implemented with glut. Hm. Still, however, I have not seen some
> explicit notion that the machine executing the client is supposed to
> have glut installed or if that would be a volunteer contribution to the
> BOINC-executed scientific app.
> 
> And should the boinc-client, which executes the boinc-application, be
> the one that recommends libglut3? Or should it be the manager, without
> which one will most likely not see the graphics in the first place?
> 
> Many greetings
> 
> Steffen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:05:24 +0300
> From: salonh at t2.technion.ac.il
> Subject: Bug#537932: boinc-client should maybe recommend libglut as
> 	some WUs	will fail without it
> To: Steffen Moeller <moeller at inb.uni-luebeck.de>
> Cc: 537932 at bugs.debian.org, Steffen Moeller <steffen_moeller at gmx.de>
> Message-ID: <1249067124.4a73407415aba at webmail.technion.ac.il>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Quoting Steffen Moeller <moeller at inb.uni-luebeck.de>:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> hi,
> 
> > have many thanks for chasing the issue up, Alon. Somehow I feel that the
> > situation is not completely clear, yet. I googled against "BOINC glut"
> > and came up with several sites that explain that the BOINC graphics are
> > to be implemented with glut. Hm. Still, however, I have not seen some
> > explicit notion that the machine executing the client is supposed to
> > have glut installed or if that would be a volunteer contribution to the
> > BOINC-executed scientific app.
> 
> yes, that's what i've come up with too. to me it appears it's only supposed to
> be needed in order to build the server and actual apps, but i may be wrong.
> 
> i have yet to receive a response in the spinhenge forum, but (one of?) the admin
> at leiden said it's not linked statically to get better performance of computers
> with good graphics.
> 
> the 2 projects do have pages referring to graphic libs [1],[2], but it also
> supposedly requires other things to actually get it work. libglut only got me
> to the stage where the WU's run, but graphic doesn't. also, i havn't seen any
> other projects with similar requirements.
> 
> that, and the fact it didn't happen in some 10 other projects i tested, that
> some come with graphics and some don't, all working just fine without libglut,
> is what made me think it really is something that should be fixed by the
> projects...
> 
> > 
> > And should the boinc-client, which executes the boinc-application, be
> > the one that recommends libglut3? Or should it be the manager, without
> > which one will most likely not see the graphics in the first place?
> > 
> 
> since it's braking the WU's before they even start, and without the manager
> running (but installed), i would guess client, but to test it you need to run a
> client without the manager, without glut, having connected or reseted the
> project without them both (to make sure it's not some configuration that's
> being set as the project's files are installed), which atm i can't help with
> since i just don't know how...
> 
> thing is, and i know next to nothing about dynamic linking, it [seems reasonable
> to me that it] should test for it before it links. i tried looking at leiden
> classical's code [3], but couldn't find my way there (way too big for me), but
> maybe it just checks whether or not the manager is installed. i saw somewhere,
> someone implying it might. so checking with client only might clear this issue
> as well.
> 
> > Many greetings
> > 
> > Steffen
> > 
> > 
> 
> regards,
> alon
> 
> [1] http://spin.fh-bielefeld.de/spin_graphics_libs.php
> [2] http://boinc.gorlaeus.net/Graphical_libs.php
> [3] http://boinc.gorlaeus.net/download/DownLoads/Classical/
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:19:22 -0000
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> Subject: [Bug 311107] Re: Please merge boinc 6.4.5-1 (universe) from
> 	Debian	experimental (main)
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