Bug#315128: More on this

[John Goerzen]

On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 09:53:10PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> > question.  It is now quite unclear to me what the practical difference
> > between these two is.
> 
> You are talking about these two questions, right?

Right.

> |Your "mail name" is the hostname portion of the address to be shown on outgoing
> |news and mail messages (following the username and @ sign) unless hidden with
> |rewriting.
> |
> |This name will also be used by other programs; it should be the single, full
> |domain name (FQDN) from which mail will appear to originate.
> |
> |This name won't appear on From: lines of outgoing mails if you enable
> |rewriting.
> |
> |System mail name: zugschlus.de
> 
> The second paragraph is pretty clear to a non-native speaker of
> English that you'd want to enter "complete.org" here. Otoh, the
> template has been written by a non-native speaker of English who
> happens to have the same native language that I have, German, so both
> of us might have fallen into a translation trap.

Here's what got me confused:

1) Rewriting, in my mind, could transform a "From: jgoerzen" to
   "From: jgoerzen@complete.org".  Therefore, I would expect that I must
   enable rewriting.  (I believe other MTAs use "rewriting" to refer
   to this.)

2) Then, it says that this name won't appear on From: lines if
   rewriting is enabled.  Yet it is the address that mail is supposed
   to be from...

3) Therefore, I assumed it is the address to be used in the SMTP
   envelope and headers.

It doesn't make sense to me (now) why rewriting would cause this to be
ignored, or even what purpose this prompt would have if rewriting is
enabled.

> 
> The second question you mention is:

Right.
> 
> |Since you enabled hiding the local mailname in outgoing mail, you must specify

First off, on reading this, I thought: "I never enabled hiding, what
does this mean?"

> |the domain name to use for mail from local users; typically this is the machine
> |on which you normally receive your mail.
> |
> |Where will your users read their mail?
> |
> |Visible domain name for local users: zugschlus.de
> 
> In your setup, this will replace "complete.org" with "complete.org"
> and be thus be a no-op.

Right.

I am very unsure about how this question differs from the first one.

> templates, please help - but please try to keep the package's behavior
> under the hood unchanged as we would like to save people from update
> nightmares.

Understood.  Hopefully this helps.  Sorry for the delay in replying.

-- John