Bug#315128: More on this

Marc Haber Marc Haber <mh+debian-packages@zugschlus.de>, 315128@bugs.debian.org
Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:53:10 +0200


On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 01:24:51PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> I tried answering the exim4 question regarding the system's main
> mailname to be complete.org, and also answered the later question (about
> "hiding") the same way.  Surprise, /etc/mailname was correct and the
> headers were correct too.

This is the same as happened to me in the lab. Now we need to find out
what went wrong in the first installation try to document this.

> Perhaps my quibble is really in the language of the question.  I have
> always udnerstood it to say that to achieve what I want, I have to
> answer fritz.complete.org there and complete.org to the rewriting
> question.  It is now quite unclear to me what the practical difference
> between these two is.

You are talking about these two questions, right?

|Your "mail name" is the hostname portion of the address to be shown on outgoing
|news and mail messages (following the username and @ sign) unless hidden with
|rewriting.
|
|This name will also be used by other programs; it should be the single, full
|domain name (FQDN) from which mail will appear to originate.
|
|This name won't appear on From: lines of outgoing mails if you enable
|rewriting.
|
|System mail name: zugschlus.de

The second paragraph is pretty clear to a non-native speaker of
English that you'd want to enter "complete.org" here. Otoh, the
template has been written by a non-native speaker of English who
happens to have the same native language that I have, German, so both
of us might have fallen into a translation trap.

The second question you mention is:

|Since you enabled hiding the local mailname in outgoing mail, you must specify
|the domain name to use for mail from local users; typically this is the machine
|on which you normally receive your mail.
|
|Where will your users read their mail?
|
|Visible domain name for local users: zugschlus.de

In your setup, this will replace "complete.org" with "complete.org"
and be thus be a no-op.

The debconf templates have been frozen for a long time (well over a
year), and the package has evolved under the templates during that
period of time. So, if you have any improvements to the wording of the
templates, please help - but please try to keep the package's behavior
under the hood unchanged as we would like to save people from update
nightmares.

Greetins
Marc


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