[Pkg-exim4-users] a tls fatal alert has been received

[Chad Plantenberg]

hello;
new to the list and to exim in general:

checked all the suggested locations first.

heres the error in the log:
...tls error on connection from [remote ip address] (recv): a tls
fatal alert has been received.: ca is unknown
tls error on connection from [remote ip address] (send): the specified
session has been invalidated for some reason.

self-signed cert where you would expect /etc/exim4/
running exim -bP displays the correct path to the file
exim points to ca list in /etc/ssl/certs/ correctly
using dovecot for authentication, nothing shows up in dovecot logs, so
its not getting to auth because its failing at tls
using swaks on the machine the are no problems with tls
the client is attempting to connect using seamonkey.

i thought the log message was an exim error, but im starting to think
now that exim is stating that this is the error it received from
seamonkey:  seamonkey doesnt like exims self-signed cert?  but its
fine with dovecots (have not had same problem with imap using ssl).

thanks for any help/pointers anyone can provide;
chad